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  • 01-17-2010, 09:49 PM
    Mike Schultz
    Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Way to give us reptile people a good image ;)

    Step 1: Bring along a bitey mangrove, an unusually aggressive burmese python, and a flighty Goliath birdeater.

    Step 2: get bitten/injured by almost every animal you take out

    Step 3: Have one of them drop a monster deuce on Conan's desk

    Link:

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/92885/the-...t-nigel-marven
  • 01-17-2010, 09:56 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Yeah that was pretty bad
  • 01-17-2010, 10:06 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles View Post

    Step 1: Bring along a bitey mangrove,

    Are there any other kind?
  • 01-17-2010, 10:10 PM
    thegoalie22
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    I just watched the video because I dont normally watch that show. The thing that bugged me was when he mention the "50,000 burms in the Everglades". That will increase awareness tenfold about s373, just not in a good way.
  • 01-17-2010, 10:17 PM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thegoalie22 View Post
    I just watched the video because I dont normally watch that show. The thing that bugged me was when he mention the "50,000 burms in the Everglades". That will increase awareness tenfold about s373, just not in a good way.

    Also the fact that he just had to bring along an aggressive one, then wave it around while it struck in every direction... :rolleyes:
  • 01-17-2010, 10:23 PM
    gmcclurelssu
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    well, he gets an A for effort, thats for sure! but your right, its pretty hard to make a case for reptiles as pets when you start the segment bleeding from the neck. (side note tho: that frog was sweet!)
  • 01-17-2010, 10:57 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    he gets two thumbs down :rage: hes got blood all over him and hes been on the show for 2 seconds LMAO
  • 01-17-2010, 11:53 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Nigels a idiot! Conans a wussy! Yea he just made every big snake look like a killer with this stunt :mad:
  • 01-17-2010, 11:55 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Woah! That's a giant poo there... lovely...
    :8: :rofl:
  • 01-18-2010, 12:13 AM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Nigels a idiot! Conans a wussy! Yea he just made every big snake look like a killer with this stunt :mad:

    i understand you gotta make good tv and all but did he really need to get that burm all worked up and stress it out even more???for some1 thats supposed to be an expert he really is a dumb ass
  • 01-18-2010, 12:35 AM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    vertainly not a good message to send out to a society that feat these animals and to mention 50,000 wild Burmese in the Everglades. Way to go Marvin :rolleyes:
  • 01-18-2010, 12:47 AM
    steveboos
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    What an unbelieveable show he put on! That is amazing that he would bring really aggressive animals and other snakes directly from the wild and bring them on the show. This really makes me angry and he is definitely giving reptiles a bad rap.
  • 01-18-2010, 01:35 AM
    redstormlax12
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    This one act could have a huge effect on our efforts. Its sad. Im really disapointed. There are so many other great example of reptiles that could have been brought on the show. Bring a ball python, a beardie, a leo, maybe a better behaved burm? and am i mistaken or did he say that burm was straight from the everglades...
  • 01-18-2010, 02:06 AM
    djansen
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    I think people are overreacting, its a late night comedy show of course he was going for the wow factor. And yeah he got clawed by a big water monitor but the monitor was not even angry at all so it was a obvious accident. And yeah, the wild caught burm was snappy but then he handled a 21 ft retic and nobody got eaten.
    sure he could have been a little better but I dont think was that big of a deal.
  • 01-18-2010, 02:29 AM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    I'd go for the wow factor with a tame burm ;) Instead of saying "look at these evil things that are 50,000 strong in the everglades" :0
  • 01-18-2010, 02:31 AM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redstormlax12 View Post
    This one act could have a huge effect on our efforts. Its sad. Im really disapointed. There are so many other great example of reptiles that could have been brought on the show. Bring a ball python, a beardie, a leo, maybe a better behaved burm? and am i mistaken or did he say that burm was straight from the everglades...


    I agree about having better behaved animals for the program, the worse thing on the show was having that burm biting and striking and adding the fear factor that 50,000 aggressive burms are living wild in the Everglades.
  • 01-18-2010, 02:37 AM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    And i dont claim to be a "reptile expert" like Mr. Marvin but I'm pretty sure there are better ways to handle an angry 6foot snake than dancing around frantically swinging it to and fro...
  • 01-18-2010, 02:59 AM
    Soterios
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Oh lighten up.

    I thought it was great.
  • 01-18-2010, 07:17 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    This was on in the late summer/early fall, right before NARBC Anaheim. There are older threads back then discussing this when it first aired. I personally believe that during this fight, these are exactly the type of videos that we DON'T want to bring attention to by posting them onto forums. Those who would like to see this bill pass are also checking out reptile related forums, and we're just handing them more "fuel" on a silver platter. :rolleyes:

    I'd forgotten about this video myself, as it had sunken down into obscurity.
  • 01-18-2010, 12:20 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Yes, that was like a gun control advocate coming out and shooting himself in the foot.

    I remember it because a few people at work asked me about in the context of "why would you keep animals like that?".

    It was a spectacle and set up to be so. Bringing out a boiga dendrophilia (mangrove) should have ben the clue that this wasn't a sell on the suitability of exotics as pets.

    What we need is high profile people going on shows to illustrate what wonderful captives these animals have the potential to be. Not showing off a bunch off pissed off, stressed out animals that are biting and thrashing.

    Nigel should know better. He shows up at a lot of the reptile shows. Maybe someone should call him out on his poor timing and his poor display of sensationalism at our risk.

    Better yet, he has shown a willingness to answer correspondence. He was called out for his inappropriate handling of a false water cobra on his show and responded to inquiries from the community:

    http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...-responds.html

    Remember folks - this is a guy who is presenting himself as a "professional". When he waltzes out on stage and shows he is not in control of the situation, it makes our beloved pets look uncontrollable and potentially dangerous.
  • 01-19-2010, 12:15 AM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    This was on in the late summer/early fall, right before NARBC Anaheim. There are older threads back then discussing this when it first aired. I personally believe that during this fight, these are exactly the type of videos that we DON'T want to bring attention to by posting them onto forums. Those who would like to see this bill pass are also checking out reptile related forums, and we're just handing them more "fuel" on a silver platter. :rolleyes:

    I'd forgotten about this video myself, as it had sunken down into obscurity.

    This was the first time I saw it... on the front page of reptilegeeks.com currently :O
  • 01-19-2010, 12:27 AM
    WesleyTF
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    unbelievable. imagine someone swinging a dog around by their tail... would anyone stand for that on network TV? would anyone be surprised if it snarled? I cannot believe the way these animals were treated.
  • 01-19-2010, 02:41 AM
    cweimer4
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Huge retic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 01-19-2010, 06:55 AM
    SS4Luck
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    aww i love twinkie :) (the big retic)

    one of my friends works at the prehistoric pets where they keep her, she is a sweetie.... except for when she lunged at my buddy lol

    anyone in SoCal can go see her, shes in fountain valley and her cage is kinda hard to miss lol
  • 01-19-2010, 09:02 AM
    redpython
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    these people get on tv and they want to put on a show. they are very careless.

    Brady Barr - careless
    Austin Stevens - careless
    Steve Irwin - careless

    Even in Bhb's latest video, the way they harassed the blood pythons was just for the wow factor.

    The worse of it all is not how it encourages the anti snake people, but how it encourages the "snake" people.

    They go out and handle venomous snakes carelessly, come to the forums, post pictures, and everyone tells them how cool they are.
  • 01-19-2010, 09:15 AM
    Neal
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Awesome retic, but why would he take the ones he knows are nippy and stuff instead of taking the nice calm ones to show people? People already know snakes bite, they don't believe in calm ones, so why not show them on National TV?
  • 01-19-2010, 12:40 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Awesome retic, but why would he take the ones he knows are nippy and stuff instead of taking the nice calm ones to show people? People already know snakes bite, they don't believe in calm ones, so why not show them on National TV?

    Because Nigels a idiot!
  • 01-19-2010, 08:16 PM
    Neal
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Because Nigels a idiot!

    Yep, that was a stupid move on his part. Conan was kind of funny how he was running back and hiding though. He really over-reacted though, but who can blame him with an idiot showing what he did.
  • 01-19-2010, 08:16 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    clearly it was for the most part scripted....the blood on his neck was in no way real. He kept wiping it and it never moved. It was awfully perfect.

    While I do find some of it funny....I get that it was scripted and they brought the more agressive snakes. To the average person...they are wild ppl killing creatures and not something that is good for us right now. You just drove the nail in what most ppl think about reptiles.

    Just my opinion
  • 01-19-2010, 08:21 PM
    Neal
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    clearly it was for the most part scripted....the blood on his neck was in no way real. He kept wiping it and it never moved. It was awfully perfect.

    While I do find some of it funny....I get that it was scripted and they brought the more agressive snakes. To the average person...they are wild ppl killing creatures and not something that is good for us right now. You just drove the nail in what most ppl think about reptiles.

    Just my opinion

    Actually if I recall, the blood slowly ran down from the start to finish. Also I don't recall him wiping it.
  • 01-19-2010, 09:15 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Actually if I recall, the blood slowly ran down from the start to finish. Also I don't recall him wiping it.

    again...just my opinion....thought it was scripted. But I do see it coming down the second time I watched it.
  • 01-19-2010, 11:10 PM
    Neal
    Re: Nigel Marvin making a fool of himself on National TV
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    again...just my opinion....thought it was scripted. But I do see it coming down the second time I watched it.

    It could of very well been scripted, I was just referring to the blood. lol
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