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A new project of mine...

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  • 01-12-2010, 03:30 PM
    Jerhart
    A new project of mine...
    This is a new project of mine. This little guy (Just shed with a little stuck shed) has locked up with my cinny gal (in blue) a few times this year. It is my first year breeding him. He has also locked up with a couple of normal gals. I am excited to see what he throws.

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF6942.jpg

    Here is a picture of the male.
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/b61c28e4.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5941.jpg

    Fingers crossed for a few viable clutches from him.
  • 01-12-2010, 03:31 PM
    2kdime
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Hoping for some black snakes?

    I LOVE super cinny's!
  • 01-12-2010, 04:56 PM
    withonor
    Re: A new project of mine...
    That first picture is love if I've ever seen it.

    Good luck, I hope he proves out for you.
  • 01-12-2010, 06:14 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Thanks guys!
  • 01-12-2010, 08:17 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Hoping for some black snakes?

    I LOVE super cinny's!

    Actually...I am not too sure what I am going to get with this pairing? :)
  • 01-12-2010, 08:44 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    ...any guesses on what the male is? Anyone? :)
  • 01-12-2010, 09:00 PM
    2kdime
    Re: A new project of mine...
    I thought he was a Cinny....
  • 01-12-2010, 09:02 PM
    Jyson
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Very Kewl! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for ya. :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jerhart View Post
    ...any guesses on what the male is? Anyone? :)

    I'm going to go out on the limb and say he's a ball python. lol :D :P

    Granite perhaps? Or possibly even Garcia? It does kinda-sorta-maybe remind me of the garcia mojave.
  • 01-12-2010, 09:23 PM
    m00kfu
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Granite cinnamon? Wouldn't be the first time someone ended up with a granite combo without realizing it. :P
  • 01-12-2010, 09:36 PM
    2kdime
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Black Pastel maybe?

    I don't know dude...

    I don't keep those little snakes:D
  • 01-12-2010, 11:31 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Here is a clue...

    He was sold to me as a normal. :)
  • 01-12-2010, 11:47 PM
    kylesreptiles
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Well good luck I hope you get some great looking babies from him that are far from normal =D
  • 01-13-2010, 08:41 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Thanks guys...any other guesses?

    I have no clue as he was sold to me as a normal and I am almost certain there is something going on with him. One of the normal females he locked with is about to have her prelay shed.

    Here are a couple other photos of him...

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/c80d57a6.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/32fc0b05.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5946.jpg

    Here is an older picture with him on the left, a normal in the middle, and the cinny gal on the right.

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5673.jpg

    Humor me with some guesses...our laundry drain in our basement backed up and the plumber can't get here until the morning. :oops:
  • 01-23-2010, 06:28 AM
    mason
    Re: A new project of mine...
    He actually looks quite like our chocolate. Best of luck with him.

    OH and i'm in the "accidental granite combo club" too :) We made lemon pastel x granites without even knowing the granite was present/genetic.

    our choc (08) for comparison, he's currently breeding away too Bad pic, only one I can find right now.


    http://masonexotics.co.uk/images/quetzalcoatl.jpg
    Hers some of our 09 genetic granites (I don't think your boy is a granite):

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...oyals/mica.jpg

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...ls/igneous.jpg

    pastel granite:

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...yals/magma.jpg

    Black pastel 09:

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...oyals/mars.jpg

    Hope some of these help for comparison.

    To my eyes thats a normal with your best chance of it being anything else either a chocolate or sable type animal.
  • 01-23-2010, 12:39 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    That is very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

    I have a normal female who is going to drop soon...

    I will post pics soon as she lays and we will see what comes from her.

    :)
  • 01-23-2010, 12:52 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mason View Post
    He actually looks quite like our chocolate. Best of luck with him.

    OH and i'm in the "accidental granite combo club" too :) We made lemon pastel x granites without even knowing the granite was present/genetic.

    our choc (08) for comparison, he's currently breeding away too Bad pic, only one I can find right now.


    To my eyes thats a normal with your best chance of it being anything else either a chocolate or sable type animal.

    Just did a little google search on Sables and Chocolates. His markings remind me a lot of this Super Chocolate Brian has posted... http://www.bhbreptiles.com/component...feec6627cd.jpg

    He has a sharper contrast in color...but his markings look very similar.

    It will be interesting to see what hatches!
  • 01-23-2010, 03:02 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: A new project of mine...
    He almost looks YB/mojo ish......
  • 01-23-2010, 08:12 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    He almost looks YB/mojo ish......

    I've thought that too. He has that "mojoish" look in this picture I feel...
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5946.jpg
  • 01-23-2010, 08:17 PM
    cclark
    Re: A new project of mine...
    that black pastel posted by mason is the nicest i've seen before
  • 01-23-2010, 09:03 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jerhart View Post
    I've thought that too. He has that "mojoish" look in this picture I feel...
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5946.jpg

    Exactly the same picture I thought of too.

    Great minds my friend....
  • 01-23-2010, 11:32 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    Granite cinnamon? Wouldn't be the first time someone ended up with a granite combo without realizing it. :P

    That's what I first thought too. Keep us updated :gj:
  • 01-23-2010, 11:40 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Here is a YB/Mojave pic I found for comparison and it still has a Mojave look.

    http://www.australianaddiction.com/NARBC_YBMojo.jpg
  • 01-24-2010, 06:26 AM
    mason
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cclark View Post
    that black pastel posted by mason is the nicest i've seen before

    THank you, I thought so too and couldn't pass up getting him. He's UKCB too and the sibling t our black pastel mojave.

    best example i've ever seen.
  • 01-24-2010, 10:23 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Here he is locked up with a normal gal last night...

    It's tough to get a picture of the actual "lock." But trust me, it was there... :)

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF6946.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF6948.jpg
  • 01-24-2010, 10:54 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Eh...should have check them prior to my previous post.

    I just checked on them and the are still locked. Here is a better pick of the "lock."

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF6951.jpg

    So far he has locked up with 2 normals and 1 cinnamon. Let's see what happens now! :)
  • 01-24-2010, 11:07 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Eh...I did not proof-read that last post...

    Sorry. :)
  • 04-09-2010, 12:33 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Just an update...

    One of the normals dropped a clutch this morning...

    [DinkerXNormal]

    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7260.jpg
  • 04-09-2010, 01:05 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Congrats!!! Good luck with your dinker. :D
  • 04-09-2010, 01:31 PM
    Boanerges
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Nice Josh!!! Congrats and good luck with the eggs :gj:
  • 04-09-2010, 01:51 PM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Congratulations on the clutch and Good luck with everything you have going!
  • 04-09-2010, 01:52 PM
    loonunit
    Re: A new project of mine...
    I had him pegged for a super sable or super choco. But since you don't know for sure, you should also check out Dan Wolfe's "black lace" BPs for comparison.
  • 04-09-2010, 02:10 PM
    LotsaBalls
    Re: A new project of mine...
    sweet I'll take one when they hatch :)
  • 04-11-2010, 10:14 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Thanks all.

    I will update again when they hatch.

    They have a 7 hour car ride in about a month [Moving]....ugh...hopefully everything goes okay during that...
  • 04-11-2010, 10:29 AM
    FIREball
    Re: A new project of mine...
    congrats Josh, cant wait to see what hatches
  • 05-31-2010, 05:02 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Just a quick update:

    A) I will be cutting (Day 53) the eggs (5) from the Dinker_x_Normal clutch on Thursday (6/3).

    B) My cinnamon girl just dropped 8 fertile eggs this morning sired by the Dinker.
  • 05-31-2010, 05:19 PM
    Seneschal
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Congratulations! Good luck, and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! :)
  • 05-31-2010, 07:55 PM
    angllady2
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Put me on the list for a baby if you get one that looks like daddy, a girl preferably. :D

    Gale
  • 06-01-2010, 06:38 AM
    TessadasExotics
    Re: A new project of mine...
    We are excited for you! Heres to good luck on the 3rd!
  • 06-01-2010, 06:40 AM
    iurast
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Hey,
    I think I got something for you. Look at this female:

    http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2113/kzvb8gx5_jpg.htm

    This year I breed her to a Mojave male. I got 5 Eggs, now 30 Days in the incubator.

    Two Years ago I got the first Clutch from her. Male was a Pastel. I got One Pastel and One normal. The other Eggs went bad :(

    Last Year I paired her to a YB and a Pinstripe. I got 1 Odd looking, and 3 Pin. The Pin are the cleantest Ive seen for a long time.

    I can look for pictures, if you are interested.

    Best wishes from Germany, Sito

    Edit: hm, picture dont work. Here is the link: http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2113/kzvb8gx5_jpg.htm
  • 06-01-2010, 09:43 AM
    abi21491
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Mind posting a belly shot of that boy? I have a dinker female who is pretty similar :D
  • 06-01-2010, 02:25 PM
    BAMReptiles
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    I had him pegged for a super sable or super choco. But since you don't know for sure, you should also check out Dan Wolfe's "black lace" BPs for comparison.

    his head isnt the right color. id put my money on black pastel. since when i saw him i thought cinny, but he has the pattern speckling of a BP
  • 06-04-2010, 07:13 AM
    iurast
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jerhart View Post
    Just a quick update:

    A) I will be cutting (Day 53) the eggs (5) from the Dinker_x_Normal clutch on Thursday (6/3).

    And....so?

    greetings :)
  • 06-04-2010, 10:04 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iurast View Post
    And....so?

    greetings :)

    I cut them...nothing out of the ordinary from what I can tell so far.

    Then again, I make only small incisions to assure the snake can emerge safely. I can't really see much of the snake's pattern. All I can see now is that there is movement in all of the eggs. I will post pics once they emerge.
  • 06-04-2010, 10:16 AM
    Rick247
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Good luck
  • 06-07-2010, 10:32 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    They are all out of the eggs...well, all but one. 1 of the 5 never emereged from the eggs once I cut them on day 53. Once the other 4 emerged with no problem I checked the 5th one out a little closer and it never went full-term. It looked as if development came to a halt a few weeks ago...it was the first time I have ever had an egg not go full-term.

    As for the others...

    They all appear normal...sort of. Their color and pattern are not as dynamic as their father's...but there is some of the unique color and pattern in there. They all look about the same...it would been alot of easier if there were two distinctive looking type of hatchlings in the clutch.

    So...either he [the father] is nothing more than a unique-looking normal..

    or

    He is something special and just missed out this time...or lucked out and they are something subtle.

    I am going with they are all normals. However, I am going to wait to post pics until they have their first shed.
  • 06-07-2010, 10:56 PM
    SansCera
    Re: A new project of mine...
    No cinnis???
  • 06-07-2010, 11:07 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SansCera View Post
    No cinnis???

    Nope...that clutch was just dropped...it still has about 55 days to go. :)

    This clutch was just a Normal x Dinker.
  • 06-19-2010, 05:31 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Well....3 of the 4 shed last night...so I snapped some quick pictures. I was hoping for something a little more. If there is anything going on with these guys...it's subtle.

    Nothing special...but here they are. I got 2.2 from the clutch and will post pics of the other female once she sheds. For what it's worth, the stillborn did not resemble these guys pattern-wise at all...a but more reduced. It is what it is... I cinnamon clutch the dinker sired due to pip at the end of July...so I am hoping for something unusual from that one.

    I am in the middle of moving so much of my stuff is in storage...this includes my photo tent. So I ended up shooting outside under sunny skies.

    Male #1
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7309.jpg

    Male #2....he would not stay still
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7312.jpg

    Female #1
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7313.jpg

    And a couple of updated photos of dinker-dad...
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7315.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7316.jpg
  • 06-20-2010, 12:30 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: A new project of mine...
    For anyone who may be following this thread...here is the last to shed. She has some nice blushing/flames like her dad..that's about it.

    Shot outside with a dirty lens...but you get the idea.

    Female #2
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7317.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7318.jpg
    http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF7319.jpg
  • 06-20-2010, 01:10 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: A new project of mine...
    Interesting that none look like dad, hopefully his trait carries over in the cinnie girls eggs.

    Nice pick up for a "normal" :)
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