Interesting CNN article today
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/weather/0...iref=allsearch
I know many of us in the reptile community are expecting the cold weather in Florida and the rest of the south to have a hugely negative impact on any feral pythons in South Florida. I'll be curious to see what happens to the pythons they mention in this article. I hope there is a neutral group of people who will report on it as the death of all those animals (or the ensuing terminal illness) is likely to be damaging to the supporters of this legislation.
None of us should be surprised when, in the days and weeks following the break in this cold weather, another publicized capture of a large constrictor happens in the Everglades/South Florida area. The timing of it will be convenient and the HSUS will be all over it on the Internet and in Congress stating how the snakes survived this cold spell.
None of us has any evidence to really support the suggestion that the HSUS or some other organization is staging the release of animals to continue gaining momentum for the bill but I don't think it's above them to stoop to such tactics to achieve their goals. I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
Cheers,
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Why did they call it an Illegal exotic animal trade?
They also said the python's head "exploded"? Seriously?
Im so SICK of the worlds news programs....
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Yeah, I caught that, too. The truth doesn't sell ad space.
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As if I didn't like CNN enough already....
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As usual the media blows the whole thing out of proportion. Illegal animal trade is about as false of a statement that you can get. I think we should all contact CNN and enlighten them:taz:
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I just contacted the reporter and the So called Dr. about his extremely inaccurate acquisitions about the trade and how hte problem really started. We shall see if i get a response from either.
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Oh interesting Flame....let us know. And I love how pythons have no predators....correct me if I am wrong but alligators are their predators when they are adults. As babies there is a whole host of predators. ??? And the head exploded....oye....in reality it is VERY likely that the aligator was already dead or had just died. Had they done a necropsie (I know I spelled that wrong) when they first found it we might have found out what REALLY happened.
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Well the Dr. Emailed me back.
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Your are correct. I told the interviewer that pythons were here as a result of the pet trade. I did not use the term illegal and I have asked that the correction be made in the story. I did say releasing pythons was illegal. I did not blame python keepers as there is no evidence that they released any pythons. I do note that pythons were found in ENP prior to 1992.
You are correct being accurate is important. I try to be and to correct mistakes.
As for being old and fuzzy, if you had added ugly and ill-tempered I'd say you must know me.
By the way. I think keeping reptiles as pets is a worthwhile hobby both socially and economically and I do not think a national ban will solve local or regional problems. I'd love to see the industry recognize that there is a problem and deal with it themselves eliminating any need for legislation.
As for whether or not the pythons will survive, I have heard both sides. I'll let the pythons tell me the answer. This severe prolonged cold along with a day long rain (yesterday) will be the test.
If I have a hope, it is that you are correct, the cold got them. (Not that I wish that fate on any animal).
Frank
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It SOUNDS like he did a good job representing the facts as well as anyone knows them, but the news media decided to misquote him. Not a surprise.
Also sounds like he fully supports the responsible ownership of exotic animals.
Perhaps he's not as bad as we initially thought...?
jb
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USARK.Jonathan.Brady
It SOUNDS like he did a good job representing the facts as well as anyone knows them, but the news media decided to misquote him. Not a surprise.
Also sounds like he fully supports the responsible ownership of exotic animals.
Perhaps he's not as bad as we initially thought...?
jb
Lets just hope he stays on our side and just didnt sugar coat the email.
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The other problem is that people seldom see/read corrections to news stories so many blindly believe what they read the first time and move along through life with misinformation.
This whole python ordeal and the lies told by television and news outlets has taken my cynicism to a whole new level. Whenever I watch a supposedly educational show on some topic with which I'm not familiar (NatGeo or Discovery Channel, etc.) I find myself wondering how much they are crap they are selling me on those topics, too.
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The other problem is that people seldom see/read corrections to news stories so many blindly believe what they read the first time and move along through life with misinformation.
This whole python ordeal and the lies told by television and news outlets has taken my cynicism to a whole new level. Whenever I watch a supposedly educational show on some topic with which I'm not familiar (NatGeo or Discovery Channel, etc.) I find myself wondering how much they are crap they are selling me on those topics, too.
Thats one reason i dont watch those channels and have them blocked from showing up on my channel list. I dont want to be fed something thats crap about a species i know nothing about, THINKING its adequate information. Which happens all the time when they have snake episodes and ppl think their being fed the truth.
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USARK.Jonathan.Brady
It SOUNDS like he did a good job representing the facts as well as anyone knows them, but the news media decided to misquote him. Not a surprise.
Happens all the time! It's such a shame that what gets printed is regarded as gospel.
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The URI on this photo suggest the picture was taken in Oregon. Time? Date? Location? Related to Florida coldness?
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The URI on this photo suggest the picture was taken in Oregon. Time? Date? Location? Related to Florida coldness?
Not sure where it came from just pointing out that snakes cant survive cold weather like Florida has right now
This is attached to the immage properties if u save it to the desktop.
"Ron Newman holds the dead and very frozen snake found Monday along the Great Miami River by the AK Steel pump house. Staff photo by John Agliata"
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/weather/0...iref=allsearch
None of us has any evidence to really support the suggestion that the HSUS or some other organization is staging the release of animals to continue gaining momentum for the bill but I don't think it's above them to stoop to such tactics to achieve their goals. I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
Cheers,
Well, they did catch that one wildlife expert who staged the capture of his own snake, so as far as I'm concerned, the precedence has been set...
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ColinWeaver
Whenever I watch a supposedly educational show on some topic with which I'm not familiar (NatGeo or Discovery Channel, etc.) I find myself wondering how much crap they are selling me on those topics, too.
I am starting to think that the news medias are becoming nothing more than another version of those cheesy reality tv shows, where they will do or say whatever they need to get ratings...
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Something I found yesterday: a VPI publication called, "Will they come in out of the cold? Observations of large constrictors in cool and cold conditions." I tried linking the PDF, but the link won't work. Instead, here's a link to VPI's publications (it's about two-thirds of the way down the page).
Check out their other publications as well. Lots of good arguing points.
