How to Identify a Yellow Belly

I have read the thread on how to spot one but, I have a man interested in a trade he says he has a breeding pair of Yb's that he wants to trade for a babny normal Burm.

In the pictures he sent the snakes look very similar to my normal female. My normal has the same traits as the "hunt a morph" thread but Im 99.9% sure she is normal.

Could Yb's be this common. I have asked what he got in the previous clutches to see if he produced an Ivory and havent heard back yet. I just dont see how anyone would offer a breeding pair for a baby run of the mill burm.

Post some pics of the ones he is offering in trade. Most people here can ID yellow bellies pretty easily.

I will post pics but I have to wait till I get home. The computers at work wont let me log into my photobucket or access the link to the gallery area. I am asking for better pictures of the undersides in the meantime. The male in the current picture you cant even see the belly at all. Which is weird if that is the #1 identifiable trait.

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I'd also be asking myself why he would want to trade a breeding pair of yellowbellies for a baby normal burm - the dollar value of those two sides is not exactly the same? :confused:

I'm thinking if he sold two adult proven yellowbellies he could buy a whole clutch of baby burms.

If the snakes look nice and you could live with it being two normal males then I see no downside.

Otherwise get the pics of the belly and look for the amount and intensity of the flames on the sides of the animals.


dr del

Here is the only pic he has sent so far. He hasnt respnded when I asked him about the underside pics.

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x...y_morse/yb.jpg

Yeah thats a tough one, they really do look like normals.

Its weird some of them really do have yellow bellies, and other appear to be completely normal. I don't get it either....

Would need to see belly pictures, but nothing about those two scream YB to me.

THey appear to be normal... yellowbellies usually have identifying characteristics other than their bellies as well ;)

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45579

Those look like normies to me

From what I cna see of the belly on the snake on the right, I would say that one is definitely a normal.
If he cannot provide belly shots, then I would assume he is scamming you and they are both normals.

The one on the right in that photo does not have any of the YB belly markers that I can see.

I think those are both normals. I agree they just don't have any of the yellowbelly characteristics that I look for.

Gale

Normal Burm - $65-85
Adult Yellow Belly pair - A couple hundred

Look like normals to me. But an adult female will usually run about $50-100 so not a bad deal if you want one. He is also holding them by the tail (just something to think about).

from the picture he sent you there i would say normals just from the pattern. they don't really have the characteristic yellowbelly look to them.
heres a old picture of my yellowbelly male for comparison.
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...acer74/082.jpg
really you need more pictures of the snakes before true judgement can be made. really need a picture of the belly. also yellowbellys will usually have a spot on the head or a lighter head. to an untrained eye it is very difficult to tell a normal from a yellowbelly.

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Here is the only pic he has sent so far. He hasnt respnded when I asked him about the underside pics.

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/x...y_morse/yb.jpg

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Those do not appear to be yellow bellies. Definitely get better pics from him. From what I can see, the heads are wrong, the coloration is wrong, the side pattern (flaming) is wrong and from what I can see of the belly, it's wrong, too. He may not be scamming you on purpose. Maybe he got duped when he picked them up. A female yellow belly at that size is worth some nice coin, too.

The simple fact that those are the pics that were sent to identify YBs says a lot... when you are getting a YB you get a side shot, head shot, belly shot... not a snake dangling at random shot.

Bruce

I know this seems like another post to your thread saying "Yellowbelly", but I would like to give my opinion.

There are Yellowbellies that do look extremely similar to normals, but these two snakes in the picture tell me nothing to be Yellowbellies. Yellowbellies have reduced patterns, flames, pattern on the sides of the belly (which I do not see from the angle of the snake on the left), and the heads of those snakes just say normal.

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Originally Posted by theturtlepond

Normal Burm - $65-85
Adult Yellow Belly pair - A couple hundred

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I want a pair of breedable yb's for a couple hundred :P

I agree they appear to be normals, not yb's

Well still no new pictures so Im guessing he suspected my doubt when I started asking questions. But thanks for all the replies.

Sadly there is too many out there doing the same thing, I see it on CL all the time.
Makes a bad name for real hobbyist.