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  • 01-08-2010, 06:54 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over them
  • 01-08-2010, 07:00 PM
    singingtothewheat
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Yea, funny how you don't hear one single word about what effect this is going to have except on these forums. It's like a blackout of information
  • 01-08-2010, 07:07 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Kind of how the press was urged to keep quiet about the huge snow storm in Houston a few weeks ago. We didnt learn of it for quite a few hours due to the hush hush status..
  • 01-08-2010, 07:25 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    I'm sure they figure the snakes will just freeze at that temp.....And then thaw themselves out in the spring.:rofl::rofl:
  • 01-08-2010, 08:43 PM
    ER12
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    This is what I'd be willing to bet the money hungry media won't pick up on. After all, sensationalism sells. Facts do not.
  • 01-08-2010, 08:48 PM
    GoFride
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Snakes don't care about cold weather! Not when they can just slither into the nearest daycare full of delicious warm children! :O
  • 01-08-2010, 09:11 PM
    Phiban
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    I'm sure they figure the snakes will just freeze at that temp.....And then thaw themselves out in the spring.:rofl::rofl:

    My last job, one of the guys I worked with thought this... so~ yeah, I'm not too optimistic.
  • 01-08-2010, 09:29 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Ha. They wouldn't even survive in the California Valley right now. They'd all be long gone.
  • 01-09-2010, 01:05 PM
    ER12
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    They will probably come up with some outlandish story about them mutating to become genetically superior, deadly, freeze immune Super Pythons. And they will become "poisonous" to boot. Hollywood is always right, aren't they?
  • 01-09-2010, 01:24 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    WAIT!... You guys didn't know Sen. Nelson along with his crony Meeks are experts and wear many hats? He's got to be one of the most intelligent ecologists among other things (err errm) in FL, he's the only one that predicted the specific thousands of these man eatin' snakes running a muck in the Glades.
  • 01-09-2010, 10:15 PM
    snakemastercanada
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    During this cold snap in South Florida, Burmese pythons in the wild may be out sunning themselves in an effort to stay warm. And that means hunters out in four South Florida wildlife management areas (WMAs) should be on the lookout for the unwanted, nonnative species. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) reminds hunters that they may continue to take Burmese pythons and all other reptiles of concern within four South Florida WMAs during the normal course of hunting during the areas’ small-game seasons.

    All properly licensed and permitted hunters have the authority, if they wish, to harvest pythons and other reptiles of concern (Indian python, reticulated python, northern and southern African rock python, amethystine or scrub python, green anaconda and Nile monitor lizard) on Everglades, Francis S. Taylor, Holey Land and Rotenberger WMAs and Big Cypress National Preserve during specified hunting seasons.

    Small-game seasons on all four management areas continue through March 7. On Big Cypress, however, the small-game season ends Feb. 1. In all four WMAs, only a Florida hunting license and management area permit are required to hunt reptiles of concern from now through the end of the small-game seasons.

    "During the warm-weather months, Burmese pythons stay hidden out of the sun, but with the temperatures dipping below normal in these areas, they have to find a way to stay warm,” said Jenny Tinnell, FWC biologist with the exotic species section. “They may be out in the open more than before to find the warmth of the sun, and we hope hunters, in the normal course of hunting in these areas, will take advantage of the opportunity to help stop the spread of this nonnative species.”

    With the exception of the small-game season in the Deep Lake Unit of Big Cypress (where only bows and muzzleloaders are allowed), hunters may use shotguns, rimfire rifles and handguns to take pythons. Nets and snares also may be used, but no matter the method of take, all reptiles of concern must be euthanized on site.

    Reptiles of concern may not be taken out of the wildlife management areas alive and must be reported to the FWC within 36 hours by calling, toll-free, 866-392-4286, or going to MyFWC.com and selecting “Burmese pythons” in the “Quick Clicks” menu. However, any reptile of concern taken from Big Cypress must be checked in at one of the area’s six check stations.

    Hunters may do what they wish with the reptiles’ skin and meat. However, according to the National Park Service, mercury testing on two dozen captured Burmese pythons in Everglades National Park revealed extraordinarily high levels of mercury in the meat – well above levels considered safe to eat in freshwater fish and alligators.

    Officials estimate there are thousands of Burmese pythons in the wild in South Florida. The FWC’s goal is to contain the spread of these pythons in the wild and prevent establishment of other reptiles of concern. Data collected by hunters on these state-managed lands will assist in preventing their northward movement
    From naplesnews.com
  • 01-10-2010, 05:11 AM
    Derrick13
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Hunters are going to get lucky this time of year. They can just find the frozen snakes and bag'em up. Definetly going to save afew bullets lol
  • 01-10-2010, 06:15 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    I posted on their forum to call them out on this bs. You would think that the person in charge of rounding these snakes up would have at LEAST as much information as WE have about them, wouldn't you?
    The only snakes they're going to find out in the open will be the ones too torpid to make it back into hiding. Or too dead.
  • 01-10-2010, 10:06 AM
    USARK.Jonathan.Brady
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    As was mentioned earlier, the supporters of this bill BELIEVE that these snakes can withstand these temperatures. They think temperatures at or below freezing are no big deal. Pack on a foot of snow, they'll survive!

    If you haven't seen it already, this is the range of suitable habitat according to Rodda, et al as of RIGHT NOW (not with the global warming scenario).

    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/images/...imatematch.jpg

    It's a big image so I'm sorry if it's too big for the monitor.

    But anyway, the point is, they think Burmese pythons can live in ALL of the green areas, RIGHT NOW! They don't see this cold snap as an issue. They truly believe this "science", and that's sad.

    Just for the sake of reference, here's the map with a global warming scenario in the year 2100 included:

    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/images/...projection.jpg

    This "science" is why these legislators believe this bill is needed. They believe in it. It's our job to change their beliefs.

    jb
  • 01-10-2010, 12:01 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Yea them temperate Southern states are going to have pythons running all over the
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by USARK.Jonathan.Brady View Post
    As was mentioned earlier, the supporters of this bill BELIEVE that these snakes can withstand these temperatures. They think temperatures at or below freezing are no big deal. Pack on a foot of snow, they'll survive!

    If you haven't seen it already, this is the range of suitable habitat according to Rodda, et al as of RIGHT NOW (not with the global warming scenario).

    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/images/...imatematch.jpg

    It's a big image so I'm sorry if it's too big for the monitor.

    But anyway, the point is, they think Burmese pythons can live in ALL of the green areas, RIGHT NOW! They don't see this cold snap as an issue. They truly believe this "science", and that's sad.

    Just for the sake of reference, here's the map with a global warming scenario in the year 2100 included:

    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/images/...projection.jpg

    This "science" is why these legislators believe this bill is needed. They believe in it. It's our job to change their beliefs.

    jb

    Bingo!!!

    Like I said before our law makers don't know their hat from a whole in the ground..So they rely on the information given by the most credible--ish group.

    Thanks for posting that..

    P.S. those pics were taken in day time in the sun at ground level in Mississippi.. :D

    We need to be able yo have our scientific evidence supported and examined
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