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  • 01-07-2010, 06:11 PM
    illini4x4
    Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Does anyone have any tubs that are stacked but not in a rack? I want to get my BP's in tubs and out of the tanks cause they are taking up a lot of room but I do not have the money or time to build a rack right now.

    My question is can I stack tubs without them being in a rack and what is the best way to heat them? If this is not possible i guess I will have to deal with the tanks for now :(
  • 01-07-2010, 06:12 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    you can stack them no problems. You can use any heat pad or flexwatt to heat them as normal.
  • 01-07-2010, 06:21 PM
    illini4x4
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    you can stack them no problems. You can use any heat pad or flexwatt to heat them as normal.

    Awesome! So I would just stick the heating pads under the tubs like I do with the tanks and stack em? I am going to have a hatchling, a juvenile, and an adult sized tub. I was thinking of putting the adult on the bottom for now (after quarantine time, i just picked him up last night) and then putting the hatchling and juvy tubs on top of that. Could i just use a heating pad on the bottom of the adult tub and then have the other 2 tubs share a heating pad on the top of the adult tub? I was going to plug the pads into a power strip controlled by a dimmer.

    Within the next couple months I will be building a rack but i am just trying to free up some space in the mean time.
  • 01-07-2010, 07:19 PM
    BOWSER11788
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    not to but in but if you stack them one on top of another, won't t some bps have 2 UTHs on them, as in the first tub will have a UTH on the bottem and if you put another one on top the bottem will feel the heat from above, hope i didn't confuse you. but im wondering for my own purpose
  • 01-07-2010, 07:21 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BOWSER11788 View Post
    not to but in but if you stack them one on top of another, won't t some bps have 2 UTHs on them, as in the first tub will have a UTH on the bottem and if you put another one on top the bottem will feel the heat from above, hope i didn't confuse you. but im wondering for my own purpose

    The heat from the above UTH will act as an ambient air warmer for the snake below.
  • 01-07-2010, 08:13 PM
    singingtothewheat
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    I still think that some snakes are going to get more heat than others and that will not work. The only way I could see that it would work is if you have some sort of set up where the backs all go against a strip of uth (flexiwatt) at the back.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    The heat from the above UTH will act as an ambient air warmer for the snake below.

  • 01-07-2010, 08:16 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by singingtothewheat View Post
    I still think that some snakes are going to get more heat than others and that will not work. The only way I could see that it would work is if you have some sort of set up where the backs all go against a strip of uth (flexiwatt) at the back.

    I currently stack them in my QT room since theres no room for racks there.

    I stagger when i stack where the UTH isnt all on once side. The above tub warm side will be above the bottoms tub cool side.

    Heres how i have them in QT.

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14.../Rex/rex-1.jpg
  • 01-07-2010, 08:25 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    you can definitely stack tubs with flex or UTH's as a heating source. However, Flex should ONLY be used in conjunction with a reliable thermostat, not a dimmer. This is because you're creating a fire hazard with uncontrolled flexwatt.

    Also, you should only use the same size and wattage pieces on the same thermostat. If you have a 4'', 1 foot piece and an 11'', 1 foot piece connected to the same thermostat you're going to have the two pieces be two different temps because the 11inch is a higher wattage than the 4''.
  • 01-07-2010, 09:08 PM
    illini4x4
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Thanks for the replies. Thats what I was looking for. I will stagger the hot sides and I think I should be fine. Thanks!
  • 01-08-2010, 02:18 PM
    BOWSER11788
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    again my hero flame, girlfriend is giving me the evil eye, while reading this cause she knows what on the way:banana::banana:
  • 01-08-2010, 03:01 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    I think you're asking for problems doing it this way. Unless you have a thermostat for each tub, you run the risk of run-away temps. Go buy a shelving unit at Home depot and set up a cheap rack. This would be better than overheating your snakes.

    Sure, some can make an argument for this being safe, but I bet no one can give you a money back guarrantee.

    I do not like having heat above and below every tub, except the very top tub. An overheating problem could easily become a problem, one that could kill a snake or two before you could catch it.

    Your mileage may vary,
    Jim smith
  • 01-08-2010, 09:29 PM
    Hotshot
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Ok, so why not just tape a foot of flexwatt on ur wall and then stack them at least they will get back heat. I use a rack and belly heat but I don't see why this wouldn't work.
  • 01-08-2010, 09:33 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hotshot View Post
    Ok, so why not just tape a foot of flexwatt on ur wall and then stack them at least they will get back heat. I use a rack and belly heat but I don't see why this wouln't work.

    This will not work as walls are hollow with air flowing though them which in turn cause the flexwatt to cool down
  • 01-08-2010, 09:38 PM
    Sarin
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    Honestly I wouldn't stack them ontop of each other like this. You run the risk of overheating and another problem you might not've thought about is the fact that you will be disturbing the heat source when you have to move each tub to get to a certain snake, possibly losing the probe in the process.

    This is what I did, go to walmart's shelving area and get the small bookshelf for $20. Cheap 'rack'.

    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ndingMethod=rr

    That is what I did and it works like a charm.

    http://i25.tinypic.com/25qf76x.png

    ^32 qt Tub

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...enclosure6.png
    ^ 20 Gallon Long aquarium ontop of the shelving unit.


    A safter alternative IMO. Hope this helps.
  • 01-08-2010, 10:22 PM
    BOWSER11788
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    sarin, what the leingh of the shelf, and how many tubs can you fit
  • 01-08-2010, 10:35 PM
    Sarin
    Re: Stacking tubs without a rack?
    If I remember correctly it's something like 15" x 28"? And it really depends on how many shelves you get with your bookshelf.

    You can get custom shelves to fit in there and I would say probably 3-4 32 quarts would fit. Lid on though.
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