Lesser Vs. Butter? for better BEL's

I will be goin to the White Plains Reptile Expo ( www.reptileexpo.com ) at the end of the month... There will be a few things I'm getting and lookin for:D.. I LOVE the BEL's... BUT they are way out of my price range right now, and I was thinking of gettin a Lesser , I like the color in them, the blushing and flames are nice in them too.. What combo would make the best BEL, Lesser x Lesser, butter x butter or a mix of them both? All info and opinions are welcomed also if anyone would happen to know a price range for them.. Thank you in advance :gj:


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I would personally go lesser x lesser or butter x butter. I would think if you bred butter x lesser you would have trouble 100% knowing if the babies were butter or lesser since they look so much alike.

from whatI read the butter to butter prodces the cleanest bel then lesser then mojave. I have a butter and I like them better they apear to havea birghter yellowing to me than a lesser or mojave .. I think a lesser is not faded as much and can be mistaken for a bright normal.. I post pics of my butter 9 newer ones ) ifI had a 10)% working camera. the one I got makes pictures look blurry I think it cause it was given a soda bath and I can only clean the outer parts ( nothing inside hte moving parts are removeable ot clean.)

ive heard that lessers and butters are the same thing.. and i agree with this.. i have seen lessers that look like butters.. and butters that look like lessers... but thats just what i think..

it possible true and that why they are compatible lol..I just know my butter looks almost liek a golden yellow ( bet mixed with a pastel would look even more bright.. ( maybe oneday I getot find out.)

Although Butters and Lessers look similar some time, they are not the same thing. A clear color difference is noted in many photos of both morphs. I would say do Butter x Butter, they would give the better of the 2, I feel do to the lighter colors Butters tend to be.

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

I would personally go lesser x lesser or butter x butter. I would think if you bred butter x lesser you would have trouble 100% knowing if the babies were butter or lesser since they look so much alike.

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I agree:gj:

I have read that the super lesser is the cleanest along with the russo's.

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

I would personally go lesser x lesser or butter x butter. I would think if you bred butter x lesser you would have trouble 100% knowing if the babies were butter or lesser since they look so much alike.

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Agree. :)

But if I were to pick between those then I would go for 1.1 butter. It appears that they're more lessers than butters for sale.

thank you all for replying.. I was lookin at photos of the two on the world of pythons page and the lesser looks brighter then the butter to me, in those photos. can anyone give me some comparison photos of each please? also what kind of price range do they go for i'm finding all kinds of prices.....


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Originally Posted by mechnut450

I think a lesser is not faded as much and can be mistaken for a bright normal..

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Seriously?????

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...s/DSC_0177.jpg

id love to find a normal that looks like a lesser

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Originally Posted by steveboos

Although Butters and Lessers look similar some time, they are not the same thing. A clear color difference is noted in many photos of both morphs. I would say do Butter x Butter, they would give the better of the 2, I feel do to the lighter colors Butters tend to be.

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just because a morph varies in color doesn't mean its different. look at normals or pastels, they have a wider range of colors than the lesser/butter morph. their just different lines if anything.

i always hear butters have more of the gold/yellow coloring, but some lessers have it and some butter don't... id compare it to how some spiders are high white or low white. some butter/lessers are high gold/yellow.

as for BEL their the same thing, I've only seen lesserxlesser in person, i don't know how it gets more white than that, but pictures of butterxbutter they are the same way. from everything I've seen, stay away from mojave and your good as far as pure white goes

I think I will go with the lesser , they look bright to me then the butters.. and i like the blushing and flames more in the lessers.. the only thing is, how much should I expect to pay for a Lesser? I've seen females priced out at $600 is that the normal price? and thank you again for all you input, keep it coming

The variation you see between butters and lessers is too minimal...a lot of the differences you see are a result of other (normal) genes. I wouldn't care one way or the other. I've been thinking about getting a male BEL of some sort and I honestly don't think which one (lesser/butter) is going to matter.

I even thought about getting a Lesser/Butter x Mojave, so that I'd be able to make combos of both in the same clutches.