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  • 01-06-2010, 10:43 PM
    twistedtails
    Time to turn the temps back up?
    I was curious when you guys turn your temps back up and how you determine when it's time to? Do you wait for all of your girl to ovulate? For those of you that feel for follicles; do you wait till all your girls have follicles. I'm thinking I will turn my temps back up in February, but, I don't know if I should wait till of my girls ovulate or what. Thay have been cooling since Oct. 10th. So, they have definately had their chills for a few months. They all have nice sized follicles also.
  • 01-06-2010, 11:40 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Spring comes around Jan 20th in my little snake's world.

    Your mileage my differ!
    Jim Smith
  • 01-07-2010, 12:58 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    Spring comes around Jan 20th in my little snake's world.

    Your mileage my differ!
    Jim Smith

    When do you start cooling? Do you wait for your girls to have ovulated and all that good stuff?
  • 01-07-2010, 01:06 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    If you are cycling them then yes you raise temps to females that have ovulated as they will be seeking warmth once gravid.

    I personally dont cycle anything.
  • 01-07-2010, 01:22 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    If you are cycling them then yes you raise temps to females that have ovulated as they will be seeking warmth once gravid.

    I personally dont cycle anything.

    The only problem with rasing the temps on one at a time is the fact that I have them in a vision rack, and there is no way of heat individual levels at different temps(Without getting all crazy). Do you think it will hurt anything if I raise the temps of all of them in February even if some are not yet gravid?
  • 01-07-2010, 01:25 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    I dont see it hurting anything. I never lower the hot side ever. The room may drop to as low as 77 at night but its back to 82 in day time. And i still have girls lay eggs. Its your call as their your snakes and you know their behavior.
  • 01-09-2010, 03:40 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    When do you start cooling? Do you wait for your girls to have ovulated and all that good stuff?

    New moon in October. I know, it doesn't matter. But I thought I'd start something on the weird side and this is it.

    Jim Smith
  • 01-09-2010, 03:42 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    I dont see it hurting anything. I never lower the hot side ever. The room may drop to as low as 77 at night but its back to 82 in day time. And i still have girls lay eggs. Its your call as their your snakes and you know their behavior.

    You don't need to cool the Ball Python for breeding, but it's something I started years and years ago. You will get eggs either way!:banana:

    Jim Smith
  • 01-09-2010, 08:22 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    You don't need to cool the Ball Python for breeding, but it's something I started years and years ago. You will get eggs either way!:banana:

    Jim Smith

    Yeah I know people who don't cool. For some reason I just wanted to. I'm curious if because I have cooled them and turn temps back up too early that it will mess with their cycles.
  • 01-09-2010, 08:44 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    No, you shouldn't have a problem. Unless you cool, warm, then cool again. Then all bests are off. No telling what could happen if that occurred.

    Good Luck!
    Jim Smith
  • 01-10-2010, 01:08 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    No, you shouldn't have a problem. Unless you cool, warm, then cool again. Then all bests are off. No telling what could happen if that occurred.

    Good Luck!
    Jim Smith


    It's kinda funny that you say that. I had my night drop timer become detached for about a week this season. So far, so good though. I still have building and ovulations taking place. Thanks God:please:
  • 01-10-2010, 01:11 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    No, you shouldn't have a problem. Unless you cool, warm, then cool again. Then all bests are off. No telling what could happen if that occurred.

    Good Luck!
    Jim Smith

    That wont harm anything either. Snakes do it naturally when thermo-regulating their body temps when moving from warm to cool in the tubs. I never drop temps there for they get 80/92 all year and never had a problem. Nothing will happen at all as my females will still go to the warm side here and there while developing.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:16 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    That wont harm anything either. Snakes do it naturally when thermo-regulating their body temps when moving from warm to cool in the tubs. I never drop temps there for they get 80/92 all year and never had a problem. Nothing will happen at all as my females will still go to the warm side here and there while developing.

    I still catch them on the hot spot also. They actually like to spend a lot of their time right in between the hot spot and cool side.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:17 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    I still catch them on the hot spot also. They actually like to spend a lot of their time right in between the hot spot and cool side.

    Yes i will never deny them warmth. They can still cycle in the room temp of 80 no problem. If you must cycle them try a trick i did with some females of using cold water in their bowls for them to wrap and can help kick start their developing.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:21 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    Yes i will never deny them warmth. They can still cycle in the room temp of 80 no problem. If you must cycle them try a trick i did with some females of using cold water in their bowls for them to wrap and can help kick start their developing.

    I might try that trick! I have a couple girl who seem to have slowed their developing down. Their follicles are just about the size of shooter marbles and growing SLOW.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:26 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    I might try that trick! I have a couple girl who seem to have slowed their developing down. Their follicles are just about the size of shooter marbles and growing SLOW.

    They might just be developing just fine. This isnt a race, they go slow as it is and its a waiting game. If your watching them daily then its going to feel as their doing nothing. I never palpate my females as i like the number of eggs to be a surprise.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:31 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    They might just be developing just fine. This isnt a race, they go slow as it is and its a waiting game. If your watching them daily then its going to feel as their doing nothing. I never palpate my females as i like the number of eggs to be a surprise.

    I'm definately waiting...That's for sure. While talking with a bigger breeder, he mentioned that females will actually arrest the development of follicles at some point for a little bit. I think that is where at least 2-3 of my girls are right now.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:33 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    I'm definately waiting...That's for sure. While talking with a bigger breeder, he mentioned that females will actually arrest the development of follicles at some point for a little bit. I think that is where at least 2-3 of my girls are right now.

    The wait is worth it.
  • 01-10-2010, 01:34 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: Time to turn the temps back up?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flameethrower View Post
    The wait is worth it.

    I feel you on that.
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