NEW pied female ball python....

Hello all, well im finally gonna recieve my first female 09 pied female, as of now shes at 250grams , she's a low white pied and im super excited to get her this thursday... i did a trade with jeff luman from jefflumenreptiles.com for my 07 spider parodox female and $200.00, i hope i made a good choice.. lol either way im getting what ive always wanted... here are some pics of her
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...iedfemale1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...iedfemale2.jpg

I normally don't like low whites, But she is beautiful, I really liker her

thanks a bunch, i always loved low whites not sure why, im also getting a medium white male on the 25th of this month so ill have me a pair from different parents... soooo excited....

Nothing against spiders, but getting a pied for a spider and some cash is a no brainer IMO, nice pick up

My God she's beautiful! I love low whites, hopefully sometime this year I can acquire one. Good luck with that beauty!

She is gorgeous! Congrats!! :gj:

Nice looking pied :gj:

She's beautiful. Low whites are my favorite.

She looks remarkably like my low white boy!

Pretty little girl, that's for sure. Here's to a future of beautiful babies!

Gale

thanks alot guys, only thing im regreating is my spider female was at 1400grams... but oh well ill let her grow up and ill enjoy her forsure..thanks alot guys for the compliments.... ill post pics as soon as she arrives.... thanks all

I really prefer the low white pieds, the busted pattern just makes them beautiful and adds alot of charactor IMO. She is gorgeous.

thanks....

I've actually seen more low whites that strike my fancy than high whites. I think she's a beauty. I'm not that big a fan of pieds but at some point maybe I'll be able to get one.

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thanks alot guys, only thing im regreating is my spider female was at 1400grams... but oh well ill let her grow up and ill enjoy her forsure..thanks alot guys for the compliments.... ill post pics as soon as she arrives.... thanks all

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I'm not trying to break the mood or anything like that but I wouldn't have
done that trade - no questions asked. You gave the guy a seemingly great 0.1 spider that is ready to breed. You could have bought a spotnose, chocolate or something like that and created some cool combos with a paradox spider.

Or you could have saved some money up and then bought a 1.0 pied to go with your spider - coconut pieds looks awesome. I'm sorry to say it but patience and some saving would have put you in a better spot.

And you're also giving him money? You're getting ripped. I'm sorry but I pressume that you can get a nice pied for approx. US 700 - 900 , and you're already giving him 200 - then you're only missing 500 - 700.

Please note that I'm not trying to break the mood or create a bad aura but I'm almost certain that most breeders wouldn't trade a female like that for a non-breedable female.

The spider was worth about 600-800. The Pied about 800-1000. Pretty even trade.
Nice pied:gj:

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Originally Posted by Ouroboros

I'm not trying to break the mood or anything like that but I wouldn't have
done that trade - no questions asked. You gave the guy a seemingly great 0.1 spider that is ready to breed. You could have bought a spotnose, chocolate or something like that and created some cool combos with a paradox spider.

Or you could have saved some money up and then bought a 1.0 pied to go with your spider - coconut pieds looks awesome. I'm sorry to say it but patience and some saving would have put you in a better spot.

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you sound right, but it will take long before i even breed my spider, i know she's 1400grams but i want to get a female that is like 2000grams then breed... at her eating rate i know she'll be close to 2000grams in a couple months, but i can't resist the pied female.... lol

Beautiful pied girl! Pieds are my favorite morph!

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The spider was worth about 600-800. The Pied about 800-1000. Pretty even trade.
Nice pied:gj:

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Nope - it is a bad trade. If he saved a little up then you know as well as I do that the hatchlings coming from that clutch is much more worth than a 0.1 pied.

I mean he could almost buy anything and breed it with his growing 0.1 spider. Black pastel, chocolate, albino, ghost, spotnose, fire, yellowbelly, pinstripe, axanthic, lesser, butter and so on into eternity.

And she's even a good eater - it is a no brainer. He should keep her and breed with a decent male! :) Once the hatclings are hatching then he can buy himrself a high-white pied. Besides from keeping a great 0.1 spider, gaining some nice combos - then he can buy yourself a high-white or even a pair if he want. He is much better of in that manner!

Don't be insulted as my intentions are sincere and good. :) And why should he trade his hard labour (it takes some time to get a female that big) to start all over again - it dosen't make any sense!

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Originally Posted by bumblebp

you sound right, but it will take long before i even breed my spider, i know she's 1400grams but i want to get a female that is like 2000grams then breed... at her eating rate i know she'll be close to 2000grams in a couple months, but i can't resist the pied female.... lol

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Think twice. :)

You should save some cash up and buy yourself a 1.0 pied or something else lesser, lesserpastel or something else (lesserbees still cost a pretty penny, and queenbees are nice) and breed him with your 0.1 spider. She isn't far away from the 2000 gram point - she is almost ready to breed now (weight-wise).

Once the babies are hatching then you still have your 0.1 spider, some combos or spider-het 'something' and then you can buy yourself a pied or pied pair. :) It may take time but it will be worth your while.

Believe me... If you offered the breeder a cute, but little 0.1 pied to trade with a spider at 1400 grams - he would say no in an instant.

:gj:Nice pied I love the low whites

You wanted a Pied, you bought a Pied. You seemed to be happy with the money part of the deal, so it was a good deal for you.

As for the Pied itself, it's a good looking snake.

I'm happy for you!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by Ouroboros

Nope - it is a bad trade.

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I think he got what he wanted, and thats all that matters. It wasnt up to anyone else but him to decide if the deal was worth it or not. To the OP, i think she looks great! Good luck:gj:

man now im thinking i have till 5pm tonight to make up my mind.. lol gonna think for next couple hours and tell yall what i decide in a minute...arggggg:confused:

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I think he got what he wanted, and thats all that matters. It wasnt up to anyone else but him to decide if the deal was worth it or not. To the OP, i think she looks great! Good luck:gj:

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We all have different opinions and I stick to mine. :) I agree that he's the one that should be satified but why should he settle for less when he could have more? It is only a matter of time - which is kinda short due the size of the female.

I pressume that the 0.1 spider works fine and eats regularly. It's a great female to have in ones stock. :gj:

Why give someone something between 4 - 6 eggs, and depending on the male then some of them could either be combos or spiders-het something? He could make enough money to buy himself 1.1 pieds. Besides from the pair of pieds then he would some extra money, a few combos or spiders-het something and his big 0.1 spider.

I mentioned some potential suiters for the 0.1 spider in one of my last posts. All of them cost around something between 200 - 500 US. He's already giving the guy 200 (not fair due the low amount of white on that pied), why not save a little up and buy a morph male and create some combos? Imagine if he bought a 1.0 enchi or a 1.0 butter and creates 2 - 3 stingerbees or sputters. They still go around for a pretty penny.

very nice, really do like that one

okay guys, well i backed out of the deal... it was to cold to ship my female out and thinking about it, i will have eggs hopefully next season with this spider girl.. now i need to figure what male to get, im thinking lesser male and a super pastel male.. see what happens.... thanks all for the advice,even though i wanted the female pied i think ill be more excited cutting my own eggs and selling the baby's off......:( sad day for me...

beautiful

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okay guys, well i backed out of the deal... it was to cold to ship my female out and thinking about it, i will have eggs hopefully next season with this spider girl.. now i need to figure what male to get, im thinking lesser male and a super pastel male.. see what happens.... thanks all for the advice,even though i wanted the female pied i think ill be more excited cutting my own eggs and selling the baby's off......:( sad day for me...

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Cheer up, mate. :) As Brian sang in the in end of 'Life of Brian', ''Always look on the bright side of life...'.

I mean your spider is almost ready to breed, and there's not going to be a shortage of pieds. They're only getting cheaper. Who knows? You may even be able to get yourself a pied-combo with money from the babies.

You will be stoked once you're hacthing your own combos or spider-het something.

I say do what you want, so long as you are happy with the deal then fair dinkum.

Looks like you took some of the advice on the matter. I for one would get a nice dom/co-dom to plug into the spider and make some groovy designers.

BTW - Can you post a pic of said spider, I want to see the paradox influnce.

:gj:

She's a beauty!

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Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME

Nothing against spiders, but getting a pied for a spider and some cash is a no brainer IMO, nice pick up

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definitely!

It may be me, but I think I detect a drop in Pied prices this year! Anyone else noticing that? I just picked up a male for only $800 - Tom at Cypress Creek had a blowout Christmas sale, and Kingsnake.com has had some great deals on them as well recently.

I like low whites better than high, just the pattern.

here's my big girl... she's in shed right now so i didn't want to take today pics... lol she's obeast....
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...derfemale1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...derfemale2.jpg

im just gonna do the trade cause i already paid for the shipping for her.. all i need is my heat pack and im out.. thanks all for the help and im gonna miss her but im gonna see if the breeder i trade her with gives me a baby from her when she first lays.

Big grats:)

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im just gonna do the trade cause i already paid for the shipping for her.. all i need is my heat pack and im out.. thanks all for the help and im gonna miss her but im gonna see if the breeder i trade her with gives me a baby from her when she first lays.

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Bad arguments but shoot yourself. :)

But I sincerely doubt that the breeder is going to give you a baby. :weirdface

You're giving him something between 4 - 6 babies though.

That female is nice. I was gonna get her a couple months back but decided on another one of his females. Shes Gorgeous! Congrats:gj: