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Which one of the base morphs do you believe has done the most to get the ball market where it is today?

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Which one of the base morphs do you believe has done the most to get the ball market where it is today?

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"Where it is today" as in all of the morph/combo variety and people spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on animals? Or do you mean that the market has dropped and prices are much lower than they were a few years back?

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Originally Posted by LGL

"Where it is today" as in all of the morph/combo variety and people spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on animals? Or do you mean that the market has dropped and prices are much lower than they were a few years back?

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What I'm asking is which one of these do you think has made the average herper or animal lover fall in love with ball pythons? In tern make the hobby grow llike crazy.;)

Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

I voted pied but the other three all have a good argument.

1.Albino I love them but many species have this mutation.

2.Spider combo king!! But some will always point to them being special
thats what I call the spins and wobble. I love spiders!!!

3. Pastels a hott one can be eye popping, can give the combo king a run for its money.

Both the Spider and pastel are on my list because of the amazing combo they make.

Almost forgot to explain why I picked pied. I love how variable they are, I like that no other species has a mutation like it, amazing combos, pieds make the average person say whoa!

The albino ball python is the main reason most herpers began collection them. Back when proven in the 80s and reaching 15-20k a piece they became a major fad that to this day is still going strong.

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

The albino ball python is the main reason most herpers began collection them. Back when proven in the 80s and reaching 15-20k a piece they became a major fad that to this day is still going strong.

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I thought the albino was proven in 92?....and were 7500 a piece??..

I would say albino.......They have been aroundalmost 20 yrs and still have a decent tag on them...you can never go wrong with recessive

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Originally Posted by hmj75

I thought the albino was proven in 92?....and were 7500 a piece??..

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According to nerd it says bob clark in 92 but he had them back in the late 80s as well trying to produce more to prove them recessive.

The price i seen for some of the first ever sold were 15k im sure the price has changed year after year but wont be easy to find a price guide from then.

oh ok cause I looked in clark's website and he acquired it in 1989 but didn;t hatch the first albino till 92 when the hets laid eggs...either way the albino is what opened the flood gate in the ball python industry just like the albino burmese did with the large snakes....

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Originally Posted by hmj75

I would say albino.......They have been aroundalmost 20 yrs and still have a decent tag on them...you can never go wrong with recessive

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I love albinos too it was my first big buy and to this day the most I spent on one animal. But I think things blew up when pieds, pastels and spiders came along. What year do you guys believe was the biggest for ball pythons?

I can agree with pieds, but with pastels and spiders they are dirt cheap now...spiders were 25k a while back and now 200...recessive is the way to go...

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Originally Posted by hmj75

I can agree with pieds, but with pastels and spiders they are dirt cheap now...spiders were 25k a while back and now 200...recessive is the way to go...

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I'm not talking about prices just what these morphs did for the market as a whole.

Oh in that case I would say pastel..............You can breed a pastel with anything and you can never go wrong....can;t say that for spiders....

Got to be Albino. Before the Albino, BP's had a small following. Once the albino was proven, the Ball Python trade seemed to take off. Sure there were other morphs, but it just seems like the launch of today's market seemed to occur along with the Albino.

Jim Smith

The Pied ball is definitely what really got the ball python morphs rolling. Of course, it all started with albinos...pieds werent available at the time. But truth be told...everytime someone, whos not into snakes, sees a pied they all say "thats the prettiest snake ive ever seen"

and that my friend is how the addiction started

just my $.02

I say pastels and spiders are part of what keeps the addiction going because they are wonderful lookers and are affordable enough that any one can afford them

I voted albino. After reading some of Kevin McCurley's book and watching videos about how they effected the BP market, I think they deserve alot of the credit. Also, they're still one of the most sought out morphs today. That's a long run!

i said pied because thats the morph that made me want to work with ball pythons. still dont have 1 but its because i have not found the right 1.

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

Got to be Albino. Before the Albino, BP's had a small following. Once the albino was proven, the Ball Python trade seemed to take off. Sure there were other morphs, but it just seems like the launch of today's market seemed to occur along with the Albino.

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This.

Albinos got people looking, but they didn't get people excited--the Piebald got people excited, and that's what really set things off big time. Pastels were ignored at first, and spiders didn't show up until later.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

Albinos got people looking, but they didn't get people excited--the Piebald got people excited, and that's what really set things off big time. Pastels were ignored at first, and spiders didn't show up until later.

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I agree with you pieds took it to another level.