Breeding Problems.... How can i safely Combat Males?

Can one of you more experinced guys or gals tell me how i can do this safely?

Why do you want to combat males?

Get a stubborn male to breed?

I don't know ANYTHING about intentionally trying to get them to combat.

Why not just pop the other male and put some sperm plugs on the female?

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Why do you want to combat males?

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i use other snakes sheds and or sperm plugs to get them in the mood. Never had to put males together

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Why do you want to combat males?

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As an aside, males put together will rarely hurt each other. They do a lot of posturing, hissing, and wrestling to assert dominance, but will rarely bite. (I've never heard of it happening, but I'm sure it's possible)

I have heard that pairing two males for short periods may influence them to mate with a female, but the opposite can happen as well. One or both males might just get stressed to the point that they show no interest in mating.

Your best bet would be to just pair the male with a female. If he's ready he will mate. If he's not, just be patient.

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

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stubborn breeder... What ill do then is put the other male with the female for 1 pairing so his sent gets on her.

With multi sired clutches will it decrease the chance of getting normals or no?
If both males lock with her what are the chances that i will get a multi sired clutch?

I agree with the other replies, there are much better ways than combating as it could actually do the opposite.

Also you could try putting two females in with the male;)

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Originally Posted by reptidude1

With multi sired clutches will it decrease the chance of getting normals or no?
If both males lock with her what are the chances that i will get a multi sired clutch?

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Just Take a sperm plug from one male and wipe it on the female, that is a much safer way to get the scent with chancing a muti sire that you dont want.

Very hard to say what the odds would be.

I noticed you have a pastel and spider. If one male is breeding I suggest that you breed the breeding male and as soon as they're done remove the breeding male and put the non-breeding male in with the just bred female. This has worked well for me.

I don't think that ball pythons really ever do much damage to each other in the process of showing their dominance with another male. It comes down to a strength issue from what I know.
However...... I think that pairing up to males for a brawl probably is not going to be helpful at all. The stress on the looser may not get you what your looking for in the long run. Heck, the stress on the winner may be detrimental as well.

I think sheds and sperm plugs are the way to go.

I did the sprem plug thing..... now back to the multi sired clutches does anyone no the odds aproxemently because i will be happy with baby spiders and pastels :P

Its like hitting the lotto its 50/50. you can get chance at both or none and get all normals. I double sire every year and have not yet to get a double sired clutch.

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

Its like hitting the lotto its 50/50. you can get chance at both or none and get all normals. I double sire every year and have not yet to get a double sired clutch.

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oh ok thanks

Double sired clutches are pretty common but it doesn't reduce your odds for normals, I actually had my first triple sire clutch this year.

Nice :gj:

Just one more note on battling males. The Barkers reported in their book, that sometimes, the male that gets dominated may never go on to breed even years later, because it affects his confidence that much. Not worth it for my boys.

had a male that i called "gay" for a while and after listening to this episode on reptile radio http://www.blogtalkradio.com/reptile...o-be-announced i tried combating him with a male i know is a good breeder,i only left them together for maybe 2 or 3 minutes ... 3 days later my gay male is no longer gay. If you don't want to give that a shot because of the stress it can cause try your stubborn male with a different female. Sometimes they just don't like a particular girl.