What do you think?

I'm thinking of getting 2 Bloodreds (6 months old) to breed in the future. The breeder told me their parents are both bloodreds, to what do I have to pay attention to be sure they are both bloodreds?

Clear belly. Should have diffused sides (looks like someone erased or rubbed their sides; though not all have this), "bald head" as a hatchling, possible "skull" pattern on head.

Biggest thing is a clear belly. If there are any checkers, not a bloodred. Here are some of mine to help you out, though keep in mind there is a lot of variability.

Amber blood - notice how her sides look blurred; that's diffusion. Also if you look at her head, it almost looks bald except for the two spots.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC_0079.jpg

Ghost blood - she has a great example of a "skull pattern". Look at the markings on her head and they look like they eyes and nose of a skull. Many have this, but not all.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC_0026.jpg


Granite (anery blood) hatchlings that I hatched. You can see how one has a fairly bald head, and the other has an enlarged skull pattern. Good example of the variability, but notice both have diffused sides.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC_0037.jpg

Here's a butter blood I hatched out. His skull pattern is attached to the rest of the pattern, and his diffusion is only so-so. But he has a clear belly so I know he's a bloodred. He's a good example of a blood having mediocre markings for one even though he is one.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...DSC_0004-3.jpg

Hope this helps! Good luck with your pari.

cheers ;)

so basically -

1) side diffusion
2) 'bald' head
3) clear belly

usually indicate that a hatchling is a true bloodred.

Thanks!

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cheers ;)

so basically -

1) side diffusion
2) 'bald' head
3) clear belly

usually indicate that a hatchling is a true bloodred.

Thanks!

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You got it! But again, especially with diffusion and "bald" head is not always the case (though usually). But clear belly is alway there.

Hi, I went to see them and I am now more puzzled then before.

I saw their father and mother, their mother is a nice dark red with very diminshed pattern, and a white chin, their father is a nice red with some pattern showing.

The young ones (around 6 months) do not have a bald head, have some diffusion on the sides, but their belly is not clear, some of them have fewer checkers than others and instead of black the checkers are brownish.

What do you think? can these actually be bloodreds, and if yes do I have to choose the ones with the least belly checkers to have the best specimens?


Thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by anti-

Hi, I went to see them and I am now more puzzled then before.

I saw their father and mother, their mother is a nice dark red with very diminshed pattern, and a white chin, their father is a nice red with some pattern showing.

The young ones (around 6 months) do not have a bald head, have some diffusion on the sides, but their belly is not clear, some of them have fewer checkers than others and instead of black the checkers are brownish.

What do you think? can these actually be bloodreds, and if yes do I have to choose the ones with the least belly checkers to have the best specimens?


Thanks a lot.

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If it does not have a clear belly, it is not a bloodred.

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Originally Posted by anti-

Hi, I went to see them and I am now more puzzled then before.

I saw their father and mother, their mother is a nice dark red with very diminshed pattern, and a white chin, their father is a nice red with some pattern showing.

The young ones (around 6 months) do not have a bald head, have some diffusion on the sides, but their belly is not clear, some of them have fewer checkers than others and instead of black the checkers are brownish.

What do you think? can these actually be bloodreds, and if yes do I have to choose the ones with the least belly checkers to have the best specimens?


Thanks a lot.

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As black crystal said, if there are checkers, then not a bloodred. Is it possible they're het bloodred? What about the parents' bellies?

Any chance of being able to post up some pictures?

Oh it's a pity :s


I thought the parents looked ace...

and I live in Malta (Europe) and there are practically no other bloodreds in circulation...


So what do you think the parents would be?

sorry, I don't have any pictures

Hard to tell from your description. Its possible that one of them is a bloodred. But without pictures going to be hard to tell.

I just talked on the phone with another dealer who claims to have "pure bloodred" hatchlings, and when I asked him if they have black belly pattern he just answered "obviously they have some"...

mmm..


do you have any pictures of what belly pattern is acceptable for a bloodred corn?

If I remember I'll take some of my bloodreds when I get home tonight. But again, no checkers. No if's, and's, or but's on that one. "Obviously they have some" means they're not bloodreds and the guy doesn't know what a real bloodred is.

i see.

then maybe I'll opt for some other morphs, the ones available here are snows, reverse oketees, and butters, apart from the more common anery and amels.


Decision time.....

I'm now pondering on getting a butter and a snow, what do you think of this pairing?


and what do I have to lookout for in snows and butters of around 6 months old to have the best specimens?

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I'm now pondering on getting a butter and a snow, what do you think of this pairing?


and what do I have to lookout for in snows and butters of around 6 months old to have the best specimens?

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If you bred them, F1 would be amels het anery and caramel. Anery masks caramel, so the F2 would just look like snows, even though some would be homo caramel.