sable x cinny

has there been a cinny sable cross?

never seen it...
never heared of it...

Matt and Kim from NARC produced one in 2006. It wasn't overlly dramatic, but an interesting animal.

Pictured are a Super Sable, Sable Cinny and a Cinny. The Sable Cinny is the one with it's head in the lower right corner.
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep36l.jpg

Hmmm,

I wonder how a sable super black pastel would hold its colours into adulthood. :confused:

The question would be how long would it take to get the ingredients needed to ensure you knew the genetics of the offspring.

You'd need a super sable black pastel and a super black pastel at the very minumum wouldn't you?


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hmmm,
You'd need a super sable black pastel and a super black pastel at the very minumum wouldn't you?


dr del

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Derek,
You wouldn't need a Super Black or a Super Sable Black, as a Sable Black Pastel to Black Pastel could produce the desired outcome (Sable Super Black Pastel).

Hi,

Yeah I got that but how would you know which superblack pastel offspring were also sables? :confused:

Would the belly be a reliable guide?

I was trying to find the minumum pairing that gauranteed any super black pastels were also sables. :oops:


dr del

Gotcha. In that case, you were right to start (except a Super Sable Balck X Black), would still ensure that any Super Blacks were still Sable. I would expect that the belly would be a possible indicator. Other than that, the Super Sable head pattern might have some influence. Get on it Derek, so we can all see it. LOL.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Matt and Kim from NARC produced one in 2006. It wasn't overlly dramatic, but an interesting animal.

Pictured are a Super Sable, Sable Cinny and a Cinny. The Sable Cinny is the one with it's head in the lower right corner.
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep36l.jpg

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I think those Cinny Sables are beautiful!

Lol,

I wish. :D

My little male black pastel is only 300g+ and the only sable I have seen for sale over here is an 07 male. :P

They have allready dropped the price on him from £1495 to £595 - I'm guessing people don't see the potential in him. :confused: :weirdface

I see it but have a couple of morphs I want a bit more urgently - and a wallet so slim weightwatchers want to use it in their next commercial. :rolleyes:

And thanks for the breeding recipie help - should shave a couple of thousand off the price if I manage to get round to it. :rofl:


dr del

wouldnt a sable black pastel X sable black pastel get a sable super black or even a super sable super black?

Hi,

Yes they would indeed - but I wasn't sure that it was possible to accurately pick out the sable influence in a superblack pastel so was looking for pairings where there was no doubt as to the genetics of the produced hatchlings. :)

Super sable in the mix means you know all the hatchlings are sables and it is easy to tell the difference between black pastels and super black pastels.


dr del

now i understand. i'm guessing it has not been done. what do you think a super sable super black pastel would look like. would it be an all black snake like the super black or would it look like the super sable?