what's your opinion about this animal?

breeding a fire-lesser male to a "normal" female I hatched this one just a few days ago. To me it looks to light to be just a platinum so it maybe a fire-platinum but the pattern it's very different from all other fire-lesser I saw.

thanks
marco

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I'm sorry but I got to learn how to post pics before

late is better than never


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Very cool looking!!!!

Was the normal a sib from Ralph's Platty?
If so you may have hit on a Platty Fire cross.

It has the color like a platty daddy. I was just watching ralph davis on you tube and he was saying that some poeple ave been able to produce platty daddys from lessers when they were bred to norm females with a special hidden gene. The whole platty,, lesser thing confuses me.

Hi,

Yeah I'm thinking your normal isn't normal. :O

Have a look through this birthing record page and see if anything seems familiar to you.


dr del

Hi,

I'd definately be sending that pic to Ralph and asking if that would be what a fire platty daddy would look like - at worst he is liable to tell you why not and suggest what it might be.


dr del

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Was the normal a sib from Ralph's Platty?

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female is a farm hatched african one

rgs
marco

Amazing animal Marco!

Ramon

cool
very near to being a transparent snake hehe

wow! :taz::salute:

Whoa, you almost got a full back stripe on her! But that is one beautiful snake, nonetheless. Its coloring reminds me of a seashell.

i follow ur youtube vids mcs, can u make another vid with this thing in it? WOW

Holy cow!!! You really hit the odds on taking a chance with that "normal". Big time congrats!!!! :gj:

Wow! Very different from it's siblings...that's for sure!

Looks like you have a platty there! You do realize that you are the only person that "knowingly" has a het platty besides Ralph Davis right? That "normal" is priceless as far as I'm conserned.

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Looks like you have a platty there! You do realize that you are the only person that "knowingly" has a het platty besides Ralph Davis right? That "normal" is priceless as far as I'm conserned.

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Actually, Ralph has sold a couple "lesser sibs" maybe more.

I'll take a short video of the clutch after shedding and some post shed pics. It will be interesting to see the color change as it grows. I want to make some new vids also for some other ball I hatched like butter-spider-enchi and fire-lesser-pastel.

I know of other people that hatched plattys from lesser to "normal". What I know for sure is that the ball I hatched is really too light to be a "just" a platty and so it maybe a fire-platty. Of course I'll find it out in the next few years considering also that it can be something else. I'll start this year breeding the female with a supermojave-pastel to see if the gene combines with mojave too.

marco

Looks like a Lesser x hidden-gene Woma or a Soul Sucker. o.O Don't know how that could've happened, though!

Interesting...

To be honest the closest thing I've seen to that is the mystic potion, but the mystic has more of a greyed head from the mojo influence.

I wonder if that "normal" female doesn't carry a BEL complex gene that just isn't very visibly identifiable, much like het russos.

I know everyone wants to jump on the platty daddy bandwagon, but I just don't see it. You'll have to wait until it gets older and it might color up like ralph's platty daddy I suppose, but personally I think you've got something different (and IMO even cooler!)

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Interesting...

To be honest the closest thing I've seen to that is the mystic potion, but the mystic has more of a greyed head from the mojo influence.

I wonder if that "normal" female doesn't carry a BEL complex gene that just isn't very visibly identifiable, much like het russos.

I know everyone wants to jump on the platty daddy bandwagon, but I just don't see it. You'll have to wait until it gets older and it might color up like ralph's platty daddy I suppose, but personally I think you've got something different (and IMO even cooler!)

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I agree. Looks like a mystic Potion to me too. Somethings going on with that normal.

Let's see some pics of the mom!

HOLY COW!!! That thing is SWEET! This definitely has to be my new favorite ball! :bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::salute::gj:

Wow ...terrible...just terrible...I better save your reputation and take that one for you.....:rolleyes:
(K it was worth a shot)


Unbelievable snake you have there...just amazing!!

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Interesting...

To be honest the closest thing I've seen to that is the mystic potion, but the mystic has more of a greyed head from the mojo influence.

I wonder if that "normal" female doesn't carry a BEL complex gene that just isn't very visibly identifiable, much like het russos.

I know everyone wants to jump on the platty daddy bandwagon, but I just don't see it. You'll have to wait until it gets older and it might color up like ralph's platty daddy I suppose, but personally I think you've got something different (and IMO even cooler!)

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I didn't even think that the female could be a mystic or something similar. Either way she is definately a keeper.

To me, it looks MORE like the soulsucker than like the Mystic potion.

Remember it will darken and color up once it sheds. I'm very curious about that female, too! Pictures!

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https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../3/7/mcs1.jpeg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../3/7/mcs2.jpeg

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look at ralph davis super phantom

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breeding a fire-lesser male to a "normal" female I hatched this one just a few days ago. To me it looks to light to be just a platinum so it maybe a fire-platinum but the pattern it's very different from all other fire-lesser I saw.

thanks
marco

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I'm sorry but I got to learn how to post pics before

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Heres the link to the page, about 3/4 of the way down
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...pythons_08.asp

Nope, doesn't look like a super phantom. Looks like a NERD line woma-lesser, or a soulsucker. The dorsal stripe is the distinctive part. The dorsal stripe is perfect, though, not jagged the way it is on the soulsucker.

I wanna see the dam!

here are some pics after the first shed and a pic of the mother

marco

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._381_thumb.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...boh7_thumb.jpg
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https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...boh2_thumb.jpg

sorry But I don't know why pics are so small...

you can also see a short video here:

YouTube - unkown by MCS

I got it

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...09-217boh2.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...09-217boh3.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...09-217boh5.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...09-217boh7.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../7/mc-_381.jpg

Looking at some of the "normals" in the background of your original pic....they don't look completely "normal" to BG. Are these the Fires? Post up the full clutch and Big Gunns will give you his EXPERT opinion.:gj:

You're probably going to need to breed this thing to figure out EXACTLY what you have produced though.

Did you ever contact Ralph Davis to see what maybe he thought? It looks like a daddy to me, but yet again I'm no expert.