what will you buy

guys here's the case
i have a male and a female adult normal bp
a female 1 year old fire bp
a male 4 month old fire bp

im planning to buy my 5th snake to pair up with my fire for next year's breeding season

actually i don't have any other choice but a super pastel coz i really want a firefly

i just don't know what gender to buy

need your inputs :rage:

thanks in advance

here are their pics

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/PC050114.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/PC050115.jpg
normal

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/PC050106.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/PC050108.jpg
female fire

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/PC050116.jpg
male fire

Male. Your Female Fire is already a yearling. Get the male super and by the time your female will be ready you'll be set. If you do it the other way around you'll be a year behind. You could breed a 2yr old female if shes close to weight. 1300-1500g.

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Originally Posted by cjt23

guys here's the case
i have a male and a female adult normal bp
a female 1 year old fire bp
a male 4 month old fire bp

im planning to buy my 5th snake to pair up with my fire for next year's breeding season

actually i don't have any other choice but a super pastel coz i really want a firefly

i just don't know what gender to buy

need your inputs :rage:

Thanks in advance

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pewter would be good, especialy with the fire..:)

I'd say go with a male Super Pastel as well.

I dunno,

I would be awfully tempted to go for the female super pastel.

My reasoning being by the time it is up to breeding weight he will have had two seasons breeding fires using the normal female x male fire and one year with a shot at the black eyes leucistic with the female fire x male fire.

If he lucks out and gets a male BLKel then he would get a clutch with nothing but fireflies gauranteed when pairing it with the female super pastel.

But then for the price of a 2010 female superpastel you might be able to get a 2008 or at worst a 2009 female pastel. O.k. the odds aren't as good but you still have a shot at both fireflies and BLKels in one or two years.

Or of course you could just buy a female firefly.

What kind of differences are we talking in price between a baby female superpastel, an older female pastel and a baby firefly?


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

I dunno,

I would be awfully tempted to go for the female super pastel.

My reasoning being by the time it is up to breeding weight he will have had two seasons breeding fires using the normal female x male fire and one year with a shot at the black eyes leucistic with the female fire x male fire.

If he lucks out and gets a male BLKel then he would get a clutch with nothing but fireflies gauranteed when pairing it with the female super pastel.

But then for the price of a 2010 female superpastel you might be able to get a 2008 or at worst a 2009 female pastel. O.k. the odds aren't as good but you still have a shot at both fireflies and BLKels in one or two years.

Or of course you could just buy a female firefly.

What kind of differences are we talking in price between a baby female superpastel, an older female pastel and a baby firefly?


dr del

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silly question from a newbie.
what is a BLKEL?

black eyed leucistic

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Originally Posted by BILLB OKC

silly question from a newbie.
what is a BLKEL?

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Black eyed leucistic. the BLK means black in this acronym.

For reasons that were previously mentioned by dr del, I would get a female. Your male fire could pair up with multiple females. A female can only have one clutch at a time so having more males than females isn't ideal to me. Only problem is if you want to do this next year a super pastel female that will be ready by then will probably be over $1000 versus an 09 male super pastel which I see around ~$500.

Need to figure out where your goals and budget line up best.

my goal is to produce a Black eyed Lucy and fireflies

a baby super pastel cost here around 60,000 or 1,250 us dollars
i bought my 4 month old firefly for 30,000 or 625 us dollars
and the adult female is about 900 us dollars

they don't sell adult super pastels here coz it is very limited in our country.

so my best choice is a female super pastel right ?

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Originally Posted by Bruceweb

pewter would be good, especialy with the fire..:)

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hi bruce
what will a pewter x fire produce ?

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Originally Posted by cjt23

hi bruce
what will a pewter x fire produce ?

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A pewter is a combination pastel/cinnamon, so you'll have the same opportunity for the fire/pastel, and additionally fire/cinnamon and fire/pastel/cinnamon.

I agree with the female approach....

You have a soon to be firexfire combo which is awesome in its own right.

If you get a male super then what is the fire male to do? If you get a female super you then have two quality females for your fire male to work on.

ok i am very convinced
thanks so much for your replies
i will get a female super pastel
my 5th ball python =)