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  • 12-01-2009, 01:02 AM
    het.pied
    housing together
    ok so i have a rack system on the way but it wont be here for another 2-3 weeks... i have 4 balls right now and another on the way that should be here in the next two days. depending when they ship it out. i dont have the money to go get another tank and heat pad right now so im wondering is it ok to house them in the same tank until the rack arrives, and if so males with males or females with females?

    thank you for you answers ahead of time :)
  • 12-01-2009, 01:10 AM
    seeya205
    Re: housing together
    In my opinion, I think you should stop getting snakes until you have proper homes them! If you can't afford the tanks then don't get the snakes. It is pretty cheap to buy tubs. I think you are taking a big risk when housing them together. They may attack each other or eat each other. Also new snakes should be completely seperate from the whole collection for a month or more!
  • 12-01-2009, 01:15 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: housing together
    Depending on their size, some could try to breed if you stuck males with females. 2-3 weeks is just enough time for a male & female to successfully breed, no matter what the weight is. Depending on how many tanks/tubs/etc. you have, I would suggest keeping the females together, and males separate from each other and the females. So, one male a tank, just in case fighting or cannibalism occurs.
  • 12-01-2009, 01:25 AM
    Carusima
    Re: housing together
    Just go to Walmart and buy a couple tubs. Depending on the size of the ball, it will range between 94 cents and $2. It will honestly be better for you to separate all of them, especially if they haven't been quarantined yet. You don't want to end up getting that new one, and it infecting the rest of them with something. Since it's breeding season, you don't want the males breeding with the females, the males fighting each other, or the females trying to show dominance over each other, no matter what the age. But it's pretty cheap to go get some small tubs since later down the line you could use those tubs for quarantine, water bowls for the big balls, or feeding tubs.
  • 12-01-2009, 01:26 AM
    het.pied
    Re: housing together
    they can really eat each other????
  • 12-01-2009, 01:29 AM
    Carusima
    Re: housing together
    Any snake is cannibalistic, you just don't normally hear about it in anything but Kings. They might not "eat" each other, but if one startles the other, he/she will bite and wrap in what looks like a feeding response and could possibly kill the other snake. I've never seen a BP try to consume another snake, with how picky they tend to be anyways, but it is a possiblity of killing the other during this season especially.
  • 12-01-2009, 01:30 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: housing together
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by het.pied View Post
    they can really eat each other????

    They sure can. It seems unlikely, but is has happened before.
  • 12-01-2009, 01:35 AM
    het.pied
    Re: housing together
    so holy crud!!!! i didnt think about the tubs... i have enough for that, i think ima head to wal mart and pick a few up right now! id still have to get heat pads, i guess i'll just starve myself for the next couple days till payday!

    thank you all!!!!!
  • 12-01-2009, 01:35 AM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: housing together
    This is graphic, so if you can't handle seeing insides and stuff, I wouldn't recommend looking at these photos:

    http://img179.imageshack.us/i/cannib...oyals1sw3.jpg/
    http://img242.imageshack.us/i/cannib...yals21zh3.jpg/
  • 12-01-2009, 01:39 AM
    Carusima
    Re: housing together
    Oh poor baby, yeah now that you posted those pictures I remember a topic on my other forum about it. Snakes will eat anything, and as you can tell, even their exact size counterparts.
  • 12-01-2009, 01:39 AM
    PolkaDotPenguin
    Re: housing together
    I am not trying to be mean at all. But maybe you should research and read up on things before you get addicted to snakes. It just might be a wise descion. If you knew anything about them you would know not to house them together unless they are breeding. So many things can go wrong.

    I would suggest just what the others said. Depending on how big they are you can get them a sterlite tub at walmart. They are cheap. Then use paper towels for their bedding. Let us know how big they are and we can tell you the apporiate size tubs.
    Good luck!
  • 12-01-2009, 01:42 AM
    jjmitchell
    Re: housing together
    Wow I have heard of it but never acutaly seen it... On the original post the tubs is the best way to go anyway... I noticed that my animals were much more active and seemed happier and more active after changing to the tubs vs the clear aquarium.....
  • 12-01-2009, 01:45 AM
    flynn
    Re: housing together
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by polkadotpenguin View Post
    i am not trying to be mean at all. But maybe you should research and read up on things before you get addicted to snakes. It just might be a wise descion. If you knew anything about them you would know not to house them together unless they are breeding. So many things can go wrong.

    +1
  • 12-01-2009, 03:16 AM
    het.pied
    Re: housing together
    it was a simple question, im not saying i was gonna do it and yes i know alot about snakes.... i have already made the trip to walmart and gotten the tubs and hides and everything all i need to do is get a heat pad tomorrow before the snake comes on wed. but honestly i dont think that you should assume that i know nothing about the animal's that i am keeping. i was raised around animals and have taken care of every type of animal since my birth. so please dont flame me cause i asked a simple question. thats why this site exist....
  • 12-01-2009, 03:17 AM
    het.pied
    Re: housing together
    i also previously said it would have been a temporary solution till i got the rack in a week or 2
  • 12-01-2009, 10:43 AM
    flynn
    Re: housing together
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by het.pied View Post
    it was a simple question, im not saying i was gonna do it and yes i know alot about snakes.... i have already made the trip to walmart and gotten the tubs and hides and everything all i need to do is get a heat pad tomorrow before the snake comes on wed. but honestly i dont think that you should assume that i know nothing about the animal's that i am keeping. i was raised around animals and have taken care of every type of animal since my birth. so please dont flame me cause i asked a simple question. thats why this site exist....

    You say this, yet you asked about housing a brand new snake with one of your other snakes.

    What about quarantine?

    Your new snake should be in another room, never mind in the same enclosure for at least 30 days. Heres a link to the stickied thread in 'BP Husbandry' http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=74329
  • 12-01-2009, 10:52 AM
    vindicatedornot
    Re: housing together
    Why don't you ask the breeder to hold them until you've got the rack? If you've already paid I don't think they would mind holding them.
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