Pewter x Pewter??

So i was doing what i usually do with my spare time, calculating various morph punnett squares, and apparently with a pewter x pewter breeding you have a 6.25% chance of getting a super pastel super cinnamon. Has anyone ever hit on this before, and if so what does this snake look like? Any code names? I haven't heard of this before so just curious what it would be. Thanks for all input.

It's been done I believe.. I think it's called the silver bullet? Or is that just a pastel super cinny? I get confused with "specially" named morph combos.

It's a patternless snake that's much lighter in color than a super cinny.

edit: silver bullet is just heterozygous for the pastel gene, not homozygous, so not super pastel, I guess I don't know if the super pastel x super cinny has been done

the 2 that have been done as far as i know from a pewter x pewter are a super pastel cinny (sterling) and a super cinny pastel (silver bullet). I havent heard of the super cinny super pastel, which is why im wondering if it exists.

http://www.vpi.com/brag/super_pewter...compareson_pic

ahhh nice, so its basically a super pewter.....looks almost like a silver streak! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

http://www.vpi.com/brag/super_pewter...compareson_pic

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Wow. This is a first for me, since I think ALL BPs are gorgeous and have their own unique glamor, no matter the morph, but I actually find the one on the right to be... ugly. *Cringes, waiting for the hate* :oops:

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Originally Posted by Moofins07

Wow. This is a first for me, since I think ALL BPs are gorgeous and have their own unique glamor, no matter the morph, but I actually find the one on the right to be... ugly. *Cringes, waiting for the hate* :oops:

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I disagree, but everyone has their own opinions...however...everything that hatches from that snake will be at least a cinnamon...not something I would complain about as a breeder.

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Originally Posted by dreese88

I disagree, but everyone has their own opinions...however...everything that hatches from that snake will be at least a cinnamon...not something I would complain about as a breeder.

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Ah, yes, I neglected to acknowledge that part... :oops: Definitely something I wouldn't mind having for breeding purposes, that's for sure. :D Just, not the most charming snake to me, I guess. Maybe if he had any close-ups to share with the snake by itself, that might create a different perspective.

Imagine that snakes' potential. Breed it to a Normal and get all Pewters? That is absolutely ridiculous, haha. Goodness, pair that snake with a double or triple gene combination morph and let the possibilities, and confusion, flow.

Cheers,
-Matt

I have seen some doubt in this thread as to the outcome from breeding a Super Pewter. When bred, at minimum, it will produce all Pewters. If bred to another gened animal, it will produce more, but it will never produce a Cinnamon or a Pastel solely.

As far as the history of the snake, it was first produced by Will Slough in 2008, and that female was aquired by Doug Matuzak. I know that Sean Bradley produced a male this year (and I am amazed, at as I look at it about once a week). I know that another gentlemen (I saw a thread last week) produced 2 this year as well. That brings the grand total to 4 of them produced to date (and that doesn't include anyone that doesn't have an internet presence).

Hope that helps,

I went to EbN the day before Thanksgiving to pick up some new additions. While I was there Sean was gracious enough to give me a tour of some of the beautiful animals he produced in '09 and a few holdbacks from '08.

Among them was the Super Pewter and as Tim has already stated, it is AMAZING. It wasn't alone as there were many more to drool over but that's another post.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I have seen some doubt in this thread as to the outcome from breeding a Super Pewter. When bred, at minimum, it will produce all Pewters. If bred to another gened animal, it will produce more, but it will never produce a Cinnamon or a Pastel solely.

Hope that helps,

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Tim,
The person I was responding to was talking about the Silver Bullet on the Super Pewter's right in the picture on VPI's Bragging Post. Sorry if that caused any confusion for anybody.

I'm hoping to produce Sterlings and/or pewters this year(male sterling please) if that happens, I'm definitely going to try and breed any males of these 2 back to my pewter female. I've never seen the Super Pewter in person, but I can only imagine how great they look...and they're just a complete genetic powerhouse.

I found this site one day while on here. I forget who posted it first, but Cheers to ya...many morphs to look at..

http://www.worldofballpythons.com//

click on morph list there are pics for many of them.