red blood x pastel

not sure if its been done yet.. the blood is the female. http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/101_1631.jpg
she was deep in shed in this pic, as you can tell.. and here is the pastel.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/101_1634.jpg he too was deep in shed in this pic..

just wonderin if anyone has seen this done before or not? thanks for your time, i'll try to get some pics of them out of shed.

Cheers

The blood ball hybridization has been done, but I'm not sure about a pastel blood ball.

by blood ball you mean a blood to a normal ball?

looks like your ball needs a little more humidity

i havn't herd of any hybrid python morph being done besides the jagpondros

I think you should worry a bit more about your animals health before you worry about breeding them. If that Pastel is in the blue, that means that stuck shed has been on it for months?

It wont make a "pastel blood" if thats what you're going for. The pastel gene more then liekly is on a different alelle.

The "super ball" hybrid has been done but it was a borneo short tail x ball. Not a blood. I do not believe it has been done with an actual blood yet.

emberball.. i'm not to sure what you mean by stuck in the blue? and as for humidity, its around 75%.. im not planning on breeding now or anytime soon both are nowhere near the right weight.. just puttin the question out there. thank you inadvance for any and all helpful hints.

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emberball.. i'm not to sure what you mean by stuck in the blue? and as for humidity, its around 75%.. im not planning on breeding now or anytime soon both are nowhere near the right weight.. just puttin the question out there. thank you inadvance for any and all helpful hints.

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He's saying that your snake is going into shed with stuck shed on him from the last shed. You can see the "new blue" that he's going into and you can see the old stuck shed.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

He's saying that your snake is going into shed with stuck shed on him from the last shed. You can see the "new blue" that he's going into and you can see the old stuck shed.

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Shes right.. If that is an old stuck shed and hes getting ready to shed again it could mean he has double eyecaps he needs to try to get off. To be a little less critical of you than some people are, the eyecaps coming off every time are way more important than the rest of the skin.

Just keep that humidity high and make sure he gets off the eye caps.

As for the hybrid. I believe the only way to make a hybrid color morph would be like the mongrel-ball being bred from a morph...

Where you take an F1 hybrid (ball x borneo) and breed it back to a co-dom or dom color morph ball. Then some of the babies should pick up that gene and would be 1/4 borneo to 3/4 ball. Im guessing its possible with a red or black blood as well but i havent seen any yet.

I hear its difficult to achieve either way though.

For the love of god

PLEASE, DONT hybridize these wonderful animals.

foschi, thank you for the info, I still have alot to learn about pythons..and this is how you learn by askin question and gettin tips from others.. thank you again for your advice and thank you to the rest who commented too.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by zeke

foschi, thank you for the info, I still have alot to learn about pythons..and this is how you learn by askin question and gettin tips from others.. thank you again for your advice and thank you to the rest who commented too.

Cheers

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No problem Zeke. I dont know everything but I try not to be mean to people. Its better to teach than to critisize. (and I know I spelled that wrong haha)

And 2kdime.. No worries my friend :) My beautiful Borneos will not be hybridized. I have just always loved bloods and borneos so I had to have some :D the idea is interesting but I think they are beautiful on their own.

foschi, thanks again for the help and your right some ppl are just that way. as I like to say just because you got one dont mean you gotta be one..
(dont worry about the spellin I knew what yea ment :) )

2kdime I dont think that i'll breed them i was just wonderin, b/c there are some many morphs out there. but your right Siafu is a great lookin snake.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

The "super ball" hybrid has been done but it was a borneo short tail x ball. Not a blood. I do not believe it has been done with an actual blood yet.

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Hybrids of Ball Python
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Carpall = Ball Python X Jungle Carpet Python
Car-Bomb = Ball Python X Coastal Carpet Python
Bloody Ball = Ball X Blood
BurmBall = Burmese X Ball
Super Ball = Borneo Short Tailed python x Ball
Angall = Angolan X Ball
Wall = Woma X Ball Python

Looks like the bloodxballs are also called super balls by some..

http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/super.html

Marbled Blood Python X Ball Python

http://www.roussisreptiles.com/image...perball/1L.jpg

Rick

Thanks Sisco. I had heard of the others but not the blood ball.

Personally, I think there are some cool ball hybrids to be had, but the blood/ball mix doesn't look as nice. From the ones I've seen, they keep the small cutesy ball head and have the huge gerth of the blood...

I don't have an issue with hybrids as long as they are never ever released in the wild or allowed to pollute genetic pools due to irresponsiblility of the owners.

I think the coolest ball hybrid is the angolan/ball mix :D

http://www.roussisreptiles.com/image...anballs/3L.jpg

Guys please,

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13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material without the express, written permission of the owner.

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There is no doubt roussisreptiles has some amazing pictures of these animals but please repect their bandwidth and use links instead of hotlinking the picture directly from their site - it's considered extremely rude in internet land.


dr del

Oops, very sorry... I am a total newb and wasn't not aware! I figured it would be good since they tag their photo anyway.

Sorry!!!! :tears:

Hi,

No problem. :)

Their tags mean it complied with the copywrite and picture ownership sections just fine - if it had been hosted on your own photobucket account it would have been ok.

It's just that, if it is hotlinked, it costs them a little bit of bandwidth anytime anyone even opens the thread. :gj:


dr del