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  • 11-24-2009, 05:17 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Help please!!!!
    Okay so my husband fed my snake a full grown pregnant mouse yesterday when I was asleep. I told him not to bc it was too big and we would get babies tomorrow for her (hoppers or maybe a bit bigger) and apparently he didnt listen to me. The mouse was about 3 in long and pretty fat due to the pups in her. She ate it okay, but now she is really really fat and the part where the mouse is is all faded looking. Is she going to be okay? I will put the smack down on him if he does this again to her, but I was just needing to know if she would be ok. She is moving around when I lift up her hide to ck on her and everything... :tears: is she going to be okay?

    Please no rude comments about my husband doing this to the snake or the mouse, I just need some confirmation on the well being of the snake nothing else.

    :please:
  • 11-24-2009, 05:53 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Also, I was wondering how long mice stay pregnant? My mother mouse has been preggo for like 3 dang months ? She keeps getting fatter, and her nipples are all cleaned off now, but STILL NO BABIES. WTH is wrong w her? Everywhere I have looked says they are only pregnant for like a month. Any ideas of whats up with her?
  • 11-24-2009, 05:56 PM
    BAD Morphs
    Re: Help please!!!!
    I would think the snake will be fine and it is faded due to the skin stretched out. I wouldn't handle it for a bit longer than normal due to the bigger than normal meal but it should be fine IMO.
  • 11-24-2009, 05:56 PM
    CritterVet
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Mama mouse may have had cancer. Pretty much guaranteed to happen in mice if they live long enough.

    Regarding the snake, my prediction is that she will be fine or she will regurg the mouse by tomorrow (and then be fine).
  • 11-24-2009, 05:59 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    ok good on the snake, but sad for my mousey. :( her and the daddy are pets and the rest are food for the snake... The male doesnt try to mate her so im assuming she isnt comming in heat. Will the cancer cause that too?
  • 11-24-2009, 06:01 PM
    ColinWeaver
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Best thing to do is keep your snake warm (normal heat gradients in the enclosure, nothing extra crazy) and don't pick it up; handling it will increase the likelihood that it will regurgitate.

    Snakes can take down food a lot bigger than most people give them credit for. If it really is too big she will regurgitate it and should be no worse for it. If it was small enough for her to swallow its small enough to come back up if her system can't handle it. Don't fret too much.
  • 11-24-2009, 06:04 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Good deal. She ate it fine I'm assuming lol. It has been not quit 24 hours yet, and no regurg as of now. I will just leave her alone and let her digest I suppose :) Thank you all for you help!!

    I love my snake like most ppl do their dogs lol so I would be extremly sad if something happened to her.
  • 11-24-2009, 06:42 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Help please!!!!
    How old is the snake? Hatchlings can take adult mice after 2-3 feedings.
  • 11-24-2009, 08:11 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Help please!!!!
    She should be fine. I have fed too big of a meal once due to asking for one size and receiving another. I would just make sure she had normal heat like has already been mentioned and just leave her alone for a few days.

    As far as the other mouse being pregnant for 3 months. That is not possible. Mice are pregnant for about 3 weeks, give or take a few days. If she is continuing to gain weight and she looks pregnant, she may be obese or be sick.
  • 11-24-2009, 08:33 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Help please!!!!
    I think your good and as the other post stated the fading is just her being stretched out. Make sure your belly heat is good (as they use that to help digest). Wow....she probably thought it was like Christmas!!
  • 11-24-2009, 10:39 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    lol probably so. and I know mice are only preggo for like 21 days. Thats why I was wondering what was up with my mouse. Should I get rid of her and and get a new momma or what? She eats fine, poops fine judging by how often I have to clean the cage lol and she had nipples like she should be having them ne second. ? so confusing lol
  • 11-24-2009, 10:40 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    I thought maybe it was a false pregnancy. I know animals and even humans can go through that where the body tricks itself into thinking its preggo. it gets all big and gets milk in and never has the babies.
  • 11-24-2009, 10:41 PM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    How old is the snake? Hatchlings can take adult mice after 2-3 feedings.

    She is about 3 months give or take and she eats every 5 days, so she should be okay with this size I guess. I just hope it doesnt put her in fast.
  • 11-25-2009, 11:13 AM
    CritterVet
    Re: Help please!!!!
    I doubt the mouse is going through a pseudopregnancy, especially since there is a male around. More likely is she is old, obese, and has tumors. If your goal is to produce more mice, then sounds like another, younger dame is in order.
  • 11-25-2009, 11:19 AM
    Jenn
    Re: Help please!!!!
    I would be feeding a three month old BP adult mice for sure. No problem.
  • 11-25-2009, 11:22 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AmandaRisher View Post
    She is about 3 months give or take and she eats every 5 days, so she should be okay with this size I guess. I just hope it doesnt put her in fast.

    An adult mouse will not put a young snake into a fast. That happens with older snakes that are fed big rats.

    An adult mouse should be just the right size for a 3 month old. Hoppers and fuzzies are far too small.
  • 11-26-2009, 12:21 AM
    Danounet
    Re: Help please!!!!
    a 3 month old snake is like a garbage disposal... they will eat anything you throw at them. Im not sure about your mice, I guess since it's pregnant it would look bigger, but I fed a 3 month old hatchling an adult mice (25g) a few times and it was just fine. Rat pups (25g) are about the same size, I've fed those too. :)

    Sometimes when you feed them a meal larger than usual, it will make the snake go into shed. I've had it happen before a few times. Also sometimes they will come out of shed and then a some days later they are going into shed again.
  • 11-26-2009, 12:39 AM
    Chocolate Muffin's
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Hi Amanda,

    We may have already beaten this subject to death, but I thought I’d throw in my 2 cents:

    I gave Muffin, my baby ball, 2 adult mice once, and she was so stuffed that her belly turned up in the air and she appeared to be struggling to breathe. I was scared to death, and ran her to the vet immediately, because I kept thinking about how when dogs overeat they have problems with their intestines and stomachs twisting….Anyway the vet was very reassuring and told me 2 important things.

    1.) She said the snake would regurgitate the mouse if she couldn’t digest it and that it would most likely happen in 24 hours.

    2.) That the overload could become ‘impacted’ in her bowel, but that it was something that sounded more serious than it was. She assured me that Muffin was fine and that her scales were not separated and that she would eventually digest the meal and be fine.
    The vet was right and when I put Little Miss Muffin back in her palace she curled up on the warm side and went to sleep. I was happy to see that she could still coil, as this is also a sign that things are ok.

    I hope this helps!
  • 11-26-2009, 12:50 AM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Help please!!!!
    What is the warm side of the enclosure's temperature?
  • 11-26-2009, 01:04 AM
    Chocolate Muffin's
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    What is the warm side of the enclosure's temperature?

    Are you asking me or Amanda? My warm side for Muffin is around 90 degrees.
  • 11-26-2009, 03:17 AM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Help please!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chocolate Muffin's View Post
    Are you asking me or Amanda? My warm side for Muffin is around 90 degrees.

    The OP, Amanda.
  • 11-27-2009, 11:10 AM
    AmandaRisher
    Re: Help please!!!!
    the warm side is 89 and the cool side is about 79 that good?
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