Could they have?!?!

I'm over excited.. what can i say, this is my FIRST year at attempting to breed my ball pythons!

So lastnight i threw my banded female and Male Bumble Bee together.. Right away he went for her, seen a little tiny tail wag from him... He wrapped his tail around her... and then just kept line'ing himself up beside her... Figured we seen some Courtship between the two, so we left them be for the night.

He was all over the cage too, moving aound, wouldn't stay still.

Now the cage is covered in poop/pee and the female is laying ontop of the male.. Do you think they might have locked during the night at all ? Or do you think their just getting to know one another.. LOL

I'm curious to know, so i figured i'd ask the experts! I've watched countless youtube videos and read a number of books... So hopefully what i saw was the first steps of breeding. :banana:

Unfortunately, no. :( I suppose it's possible, but locks usually last many hours and would probably still be locked this morning.

Keep trying, though. It sounds like he's off to a good start!

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Unfortunately, no. :( I suppose it's possible, but locks usually last many hours and would probably still be locked this morning.

Keep trying, though. It sounds like he's off to a good start!

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This is his first year and her's ...
So i figured their just getting off to the first steps and their prolly wasen't a lock... but i will keep trying! :)

Thanks Xdeus!:D

BP's can lock anywhere from 2-24 hours from my experience, just because you didn't see one doesn't mean there wasn't one ;) Keep up the 3 days on 3 days off and you'll be just fine ;)

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Originally Posted by Toronto Python Gurus

BP's can lock anywhere from 2-24 hours from my experience, just because you didn't see one doesn't mean there wasn't one ;) Keep up the 3 days on 3 days off and you'll be just fine ;)

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Thanks Mike, Yeah i'm going to keep up the three days on thing.. :) My boy just looked so interested lastnight, i was so excited trying to get my friends attention... i tripped up the stairs! LOL First time breedings are Such a RUSH!

Omg...just your excitement in the post is so cute! I love hearing about that and cannot wait for my first time.

Maybe if you play them some boun chicka boun nowwww LOL

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

Omg...just your excitement in the post is so cute! I love hearing about that and cannot wait for my first time.

Maybe if you play them some boun chicka boun nowwww LOL

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LOL! Thanks...

Yeah i was thinking about playing some love music for them.. haha.. Hopefully they deside to lock up so i can get a better look see and maybe even a picture! COME ON BUMBLE BEE! lol

We've had alot of pairs lock, like full on copulation with pene action, for 3 hours or less, alot of 20 minute ones. Mature males seem to do it faster, so heck maybe the Bee knows what he's doin. It only takes one lock to fertilize eggs, had it happen with a Fire to Pastel pairing.

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Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles

We've had alot of pairs lock, like full on copulation with pene action, for 3 hours or less, alot of 20 minute ones. Mature males seem to do it faster, so heck maybe the Bee knows what he's doin. It only takes one lock to fertilize eggs, had it happen with a Fire to Pastel pairing.

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Well lets cross our Fingers! :) I really hope he knew what he was doing... I know she's ready because she's been laying inverted lots.

I'll see what their up to Tonight and keep everyone posted!

sounds like a wild night, waking up with some fat girl ontop of you with poo and pee everywhere. hope they locked up for ya!

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Originally Posted by aybe.sea

sounds like a wild night, waking up with some fat girl ontop of you with poo and pee everywhere. hope they locked up for ya!

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I hope they did too! LOL

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LOL! Thanks...

Yeah i was thinking about playing some love music for them.. haha.. Hopefully they deside to lock up so i can get a better look see and maybe even a picture! COME ON BUMBLE BEE! lol

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I so want pictures of them. I have a bee too however he is wayyyyyy to young to even know what to do with it all at this point. (he's a bit of a goof ball) Maybe next year if he keeps eating the way he is now he will be at the right weight!! :rolleyes:

the excitement you get is like no other best of luck to you

From what I've seen, my BPs usually lock for at least 6 hours and sometimes go as long as 36 hours. It does take only one lock to fertilize, but that is probably the exception than the rule. This last year I had three pairs that locked many times for hours and didn't produce anything. Plus, she mentioned that the female was laying on top of the male. That's usually a dominant position and probably indicates that she wasn't receptive.

However, I don't want to discourage her. I just don't think that they locked last night and I wouldn't keep my hopes up if she didn't witness an actual lock. Keep pairing them together with breaks in between, and hopefully you'll get a nice clutch of eggs! :)

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We've had alot of pairs lock, like full on copulation with pene action, for 3 hours or less, alot of 20 minute ones. Mature males seem to do it faster, so heck maybe the Bee knows what he's doin. It only takes one lock to fertilize eggs, had it happen with a Fire to Pastel pairing.

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Thought i would post again and show everyone a picture of what my pair has been looking like every morning... No idea if they even have interest in one another...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...allpythons.jpg

A female on top is a female saying no, at least in my house :P

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A female on top is a female saying no, at least in my house :P

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Well they switch it up from time to time... LOL so who knows

Keep in mind that the male ALWAYS lifts the tail of the female.

The girl is always on top.

Seperate them for a few days and introduce again.

-Steven

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Originally Posted by stevenkeogh

Keep in mind that the male ALWAYS lifts the tail of the female.

The girl is always on top.

Seperate them for a few days and introduce again.

-Steven

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Thanks Steven, Their apart now
I have some other girls i may introduce him to and see what happens.

I'll keep everyone posted

Pop the males and see if he has plugs, if he does, there was probably no breeding. Also, look at the scale by the vent of the female, if it's folded over, there is a good chance they locked up.

Some breeders believe it's a good idea to clean those plugs out before you place males in a cage. It's always good to have some clean pipes when you want to squirt something.;):D