When buying a morph, do you tend to buy based on...

Do you tend to buy the morph based on the color of the snake or the pattern of the snake?

Some morph examples can have a very bad color example (ie. browned out pastel) while some might have a pattern that is not pleasing to you (ie. if you like reduced pattern snakes, a very busy and non symmetrical lesser).

So, are you more likely to buy the snake that has the better example of colors and blushing, or more likely to purchase a nice reduced pattern (or busy pattern if you like that! ;)) ball python?


I know there's hundreds of morphs, and you may have different tastes for different morphs, but try to vote off your dream snake or a recently purchased snake.

I am a pattern fan. I am not really into the wild, flambouyant color patterns. I like the clean, uniform, reduced patterns. That is probably why Woma and true bandeds are my favorites. Must be the years of military training in me...


Rob

I compare the prices and look for soemthingthat caughts my interest as to the pattern and color when I look at the group when I find what I want.

I'd go for a 4th choice which would be 'either/or' It depends on the morph. For spiders or pins of course I'd be more concerned with pattern, with lessers or hypos I'd be more concerned with color.

I look for color first...it seems to me that pattern is much more easily affected in a generation or two than color is. That having been said, of course I look for both when I can.

When I decided that I wanted to add a Lesser to the collection, I waited a year for the right one to come along. Color was important (the lighter the better) and pattern was important (had to be completely reduced pattern - and preferably black back after I saw Judy's Lesser in Daytona).

I think the wait was worth it:

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I'm the same with all the morphs that I add to my collection - they have to be my "ideal" for that mutation. Anything less won't satisfy me.

As a breeder we are extreemely careful about the animals we pick up. We want the best example of each morphso we have the greatest possibility of passing those qualities on. What good is owning a bee if you have to tell people what it is. It should scream bee.

To me, coloration is important. But also, I would like a nice busy pattern, or somewhere in the middle. For colors, I look for blushings, and brightness. But also, I would like the colors to be clean. I love the busy patterns, and somewhere in the middle, so I always look around before I purchase anything.

When I saw my Pastel the first day at the show, I waited to see what other Pastels there were at the show before I purchase one. I went back the second day, and there was the Pastel again. So, out of all the Pastels I saw, this one is definitely it. I LOVE the head blushing, the yellows, and the pattern. This snake was definitely a must have out of all the snakes I saw at the show.

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I voted for both, although I'm not sure I'd wait years for the perfect one... kind of like "shopping" for a spouse, where you can't look forever or you'll die alone! :oops: But I do try to consider both pattern and color, especially with certain morphs - like pastels, since I love the crazy patterns but also want a nice yellow w/ heavy blushing.

I'm more of a reduced pattern person myself, though that's not to say I will pass on "regular" patterning if I like the snake. Things I factor in are color (I prefer the lighter morphs myself--just a preference), pattern, flames/blushing, and I have a preference for certain blackbacks, depending on the morph. Spiders, lessers/butters, and cinnies (but most cinnies typically do) should have a black back if I'm looking to purchase one. I also tend to grativate towards the "odd" looking morphs . . . morphs that don't have a typical pattern for that particular morph. I like odd things like that; it's interesting to me to see how they look when bred with other odd snakes.

But I will definitely wait a while before I purchase if I don't find what I'm looking for. I've been combing through ads for male butters myself, but haven't found that particular one that has a pattern and color that I like. I want one with a very odd reduced pattern, and a lot of blackback if not an entire black black.

I looked across the Manassas reptile expo floor and something caught my eye. I wasn't sure what it was, but it seemed to have been on the Outback Reptiles tables. I pushed past the throngs of people to make my way over. There sure are a lot of people at this show today, I contemplated as I slipped in and out of the crowd like I was playing Assasin's Creed. There may actually be more customers than vendors this month!

Finally, I had arrived at Ian's tables. They stretched in a horseshoe shape from the front entrance, all the way around the back of Max Pet Supply, and back up to the other side of the entrance door. Larry Kenton kept the other vendors in mind, though, and left a couple tables in the middle for Adam W. and Rick K. to fight over.

I walked along the lizard section. There were Leaping lizards, Flying frogs, and Crazy colorful chameleons. But none of these were what caught my eye. The deals were so crazy sweet that I had to purchase a ten lot of savannah monitors on my way past, though.

As I kept going, I found the "Bargain Bazaar" section of the tables. How could I NOT buy 150 water bowls for $10? I picked up a few old aquariums to keep my savannahs in while I was there. One of the aquariums came with a free green iguana but I figured I could always pawn it off - er, rehome it - on craigslist the next day like everybody else who buys them. But even magical deals like these weren't what caught my attention.

Then there were the acrylic snake displays! From tricolor milksnakes to baby boa constrictors to amazon tree boas to high gold ball pythons and back to more milk snakes! The tricolors were vibrant, the boas were constrict-y, the amazons were evil and the ball pythons were so high-gold I was about to call MC Hammer so I could mail them in to Cash4Gold. I picked up a ten lot of these baby ball pythons for a rusty quarter I found in Larry's weave and then I kept on moving- these weren't what I was looking for either.

Finally- the ball python morphs! There had to be zillions of them. Baby Mojaves, Pastels, G-stripes, Ghosts, Black Pastels... the list was endless. I was about to pass out from sheer sensory overload due to too many amazing, investment quality morphs in one place when I noticed a single ball python standing out from the rest. There was a baby bumblebee that had to be the most bangin, bumblin bee I had ever laid eyes on. It stared at me through the acrylic, its little eyecaps glistening like a cheesy anime cartoon. I stared back at it while trying to hold back tears. I placed a single finger against the top of the display, and it curled its tail up and placed it against the other side of the plastic. I swear I felt a pulse of electricity move through my finger, up my arm, and down my chest toward my nether regions.

"Ian!" I called out, almost breathless, "can you do me a better deal on this bumblebee since I made all these other sweet purchases at your tables?"

"No," he told me, "not on that one. But this smaller one over here I can knock 50 bucks off."

"Done!" I told him. A sense of relief washed over me. My journey had been long, hard, and expensive, but finally I had found what i was looking for.

And in that way, Mike purchased his bumblebee ball python.

Colors are the things that draw me in first, but pattern is still something I think about when looking at snakes.

I say both. I have to have the righ pattern for me but I also think some bright colors are good too. I cant wait to get my hands on a butter! :)

This is the question people always ask me. And truthfully you just kindof know when you find the right animal. It is usually based around eveything from color to pattern and what will benifit my collection. Most of my personal choices are of new morphs and cross hets, but my wife on the other hand likes bright colors and lots of pattern. so everyone has a different view

I say it goes beyond just color and pattern. Sure, you can walk in and buy the first snake you see, but I really do believe that there's something else, an unknown. Something that you can't put your finger on. Something that tells you this is the snake for you.

Now, breeders have to be even more selective. Color and pattern are also important to a breeder, but the condition of the snake is just as important. You've got to buy the healthiest snakes available. Knowing it come from good stock is also a big factor.

There's alot to picking a good combination. I wish it would be as easy as picking a good pattern or color.

Just my opinion,
Jim Smith

none of your options, so didnt vote...
i'll but a morph for its combo potential

if i wasnt breeding tho, both pattern and colour would be a factor