catogorize the pastel

I am not trying to rate her for fun, I am looking to catagorize her as best as possible. So I am not looking for so much as an opinion on how people like her, more what catagory fits her best, I want to be able to say to people when I sell her offspring that the mom is a grade a lemon pastel or grade b vanilla etc. I dont know her line of pastel so I am hoping from her pics that some people may have a good idea.
I am using a double poll where people can choose 2 answers since you can only put one poll on a thread. I dont want 2 seperate threads, one for her grade and one for her type. So the poll will have 3 choices for grade, either a b or c and a few choices for her type, lemon, vanilla, etc, and other. If you vote on the poll please make only 2 choices. pick a b or c and one of the types. If you pick other I would appriciate if you posted a reply of what your other is.
thanks

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Theres really no way to know which line it came from, without knowing who you got it from, and what it was bred from. Sure, it may "look like" a lemon to some people, or a Graziani to some people, but theres really no way to tell. None.

As far as grade...all a matter of opinion. I personally like more blushing than high yellows. So my grade "A" may be a grade "C" to some.

+1 for the blushing!

she's a great lookin bp, she looks like my normal pastel where the yellow is, but the blushing is nice, and my guy dont have any of that.. maybe a vanilla, but like others said you wont know till she breads.. still great lookin snake.

Cheers

You can safely say she is a "female pastel with nice contrast and some blushing". You can grade her by shape or condition, meaning Grade A quality, no scars, missing scales, etc. but you can not grade her compared to others because everyone looks for something different in their pastels so it's just an opinion. Most people seem to like a lot of blushing, but some people do not. some like a busy pattern, but some like a reduced pattern, etc.

You can not claim she is from a specific line without knowing that information when you purchased her or it would be a "guess" and nothing more than speculation. Just be honest and when you sell the hatchlings show a picture of the mom and dad and let the customer decide how they will rate them.

As far as rating all these snakes.. It's not really a fair measure. It's Pepsi vs Coke, Chevy vs Ford, Red vs Blue, it's all just opinions.. and in the end, the only opinions that matter is YOURS and your customers.

Rick

B+/A- grade pastel assuming I'm judging her size and age correctly without much indication from the pictures.

Out of the three choices (A/B/C) i picked B because its a nice looking snake, but not an OUTSTANDING! one.

I'd also say its just a nice jungle pastel, nothing crazy :)

You can't tell line from pictures, only knowing the parents. line means nothing anways. Lemon seems to be the top line everyone wants, but I've seen alot of nothing special lemons and also seen alot of Holy Shoot! unknown lines. Pastel is a Pastel.

my opinion, Grade B-C, high contrast color but not alot of it and not alot of blushing. still personally high contrast color is the #1 thing I look for, id buy babies form her.

how big is she? that plays a big factor in pastels. if shes bigger than im thinking (im assuming 1000ish gram mark) then might wanna take that grade up a little bit.

I think knowing her age and weight would help a lot with this. Pastels change SO much as they age. Colors that would be mediocre in a yearling might be phenomenal in an adult.

Wow! People actually voted for blonde pastel...blonde pastel tend to get brighter as they get older I vote for pastel jungle or type B

Are all those pastels the same gene breed to maximize color so a lemon to a blonde could make a super pastel or could you make a lemon jungle pastel?

Well as it turns out she is most likely a graziani. I talked to who I bought her from who said that he bought her from a girl produced her from a pastel produced by don patterson. I contacted Don and he said that he was breeding mosly graziani and to him thats what she looks like.
I also have a male pastel who is the dad to my first clutch. He was produced by jeff favelle who at the time was only using graziani line. So it looks like that the line I will be working with now. Looks like some super grazianis are in my future.
hers a pic of my male with his baby. I also have this posted in another thread. I hink they are both nice quality pastels and should make some smokin supers.

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Very nice pastel...looks to have good color for her size.

Bloodlines don't really tell you anything about the look of a pastel. If you breed a nice pastel to a dark ugly normal, the bloodline isn't going to save you. :)

Just FYI, the Vanilla Pastel isn't a different line of pastel...it's a double co-dom combo morph (Vanilla x Pastel). Vanilla is a visible "het" for Super Vanilla...a really neat ghostly looking snake with wacky pattern.

i only saw a few spots of blushing i would have liked to give it a b- still a beautiful snake if i could post pics of my male you would really see blushing :banana:

Since it hasn't been said yet a Vanilla Pastel is a combo morph between a Vanilla and a Pastel.

and looks like this
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Wow! People actually voted for blonde pastel...blonde pastel tend to get brighter as they get older I vote for pastel jungle or type B

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People still believe this? Blondes are no different than any other pastel.

Once you get a generation or so away from the originator's line, it no longer matters. A Graziani pastel is one that Graziani says is one of his. <lol>
Once you outcross it, it's no longer a Graziani pastel.

You still haven't mentioned how old she is.

All pastels are 'pastel jungles'--that is simply the original name of the morph.
Vanilla is a different morph.