Do you re-use...?

Do you use the insulated boxes and snake bags that have been sent to you, in order to send out one of your snakes to someone else??

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Originally Posted by Mitch21

Do you use the insulated boxes and snake bags that have been sent to you, in order to send out one of your snakes to someone else??

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Nope.. I like to use a fresh box, just makes me feel better. I like knowing that its a clean non-contaminated box..Same thing with the bags..their so cheap there's no need to not use a new one..

I dont ship out a whole lot of snakes but I have reused a box before.

I will reuse a box if it is clean and there is no issue with the structural integrity. I will reuse bags too, but they get washed first. If a box it ripped, soiled, wrinkled or similar, I discard them.

I reuse, not because I am cheap, but because I hate to fill a landfill with perfectly usable items.

Rick

I've reused boxes, but ONLY ones that are in PRISTINE condition.

ALWAYS a new bag and warmer/s.

I will be ordering boxes and more supplies once I get babies, so after that it'll be all new stuff from then on out.

I was all my bags in a 1-10 bleach solution then wash with no bleach.

I re-use nice boxes. The corners are what I look at the most.



In todays world, wasting so much product is just crazy to me, so I try and recycle as much as I can.

I launder all the bags I have in, and usually only use them in terms of personal snake workings, but I have and will reuse both bags and boxes as long as they are cleaned out.

I do wash everything before I send things out.

And I don't see how you can reuse a heat pack.. I've never done that before.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

And I don't see how you can reuse a heat pack.. I've never done that before.

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You can't reuse a heat pack. Or should I say, it would be extremely expensive if you tried. ;) The heat packs contain iron powder which oxidizes in an exothermic reaction. To reuse it, you would have to smelt the iron oxide to remove the oxygen.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

you would have to smelt the iron oxide to remove the oxygen.

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I do that in my sleep....please...LOL

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Originally Posted by xdeus

You can't reuse a heat pack. Or should I say, it would be extremely expensive if you tried. ;) The heat packs contain iron powder which oxidizes in an exothermic reaction. To reuse it, you would have to smelt the iron oxide to remove the oxygen.

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Exactly my point... LOL

Someone had mentioned it, which is why I brought it up

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Exactly my point... LOL

Someone had mentioned it, which is why I brought it up

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hehe... I know, Heather. :) I didn't mean to direct that response towards you. I was just using your comment to get mine started. I just mentioned it in case others were reading the thread and thinking they might be able to reuse the heat pack.

I would not buy from someone using a reused box only because the animal before hand could have had mites, or something you don't want on your new prized pet.

lance

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Originally Posted by lance

I would not buy from someone using a reused box only because the animal before hand could have had mites, or something you don't want on your new prized pet.

lance

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You wouldn't trust a person to be aware of that kind of problem and not use a box like that?

I've never reused a box from an animal that has had problems.. Ever..

I'll re-use the boxes around the house, and wash and keep the bags for my own use, but everything I ship or sell is in a new bag inside a new Styrofoam lined box. Being green is no excuse to send someone a snake in a used bag or a box that has had who knows what in it. To me, that's like going to a pet store an buying a snake, then having them put it inside a dirty Sterilite tub for you to take it home in. It makes me mad when I receive a snake from someone, nd it's in an old, used bag, or a box that was used for who knows what before it was used to ship me a snake. It's a blacklist worthy offense, imo.

I will agree with receiving an animal in a dirty old beat up box, but a box that has been used once, that is cleaned and in new condition I will reuse and I have received animals from big breeders in good condition used boxes. If you can't tell a box was previously used and it's clean, there is nothing wrong with being green.

Rick

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Originally Posted by lance

I would not buy from someone using a reused box only because the animal before hand could have had mites, or something you don't want on your new prized pet.

lance

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yea but the person would be aware of the mites or any other problem for that matter and i hope would have the common sense to throw away the box the snake came in, just so it doesn't spread to some other snake. and unless they reused the box right away, the mites in the box would die without a host.

I havn't shipped a snake yet, but I did save a few of the boxes I've got snakes in to reuse in the future, box is good, foams already cut, why not use it.

I sell more animals than I buy, so 95% of the time I only have new boxes anyways, but I see no issue with using a clean, undamaged box. Once the integrity is destroyed (holes, damaged corners, peeled layers, etc) the box is trash. If Joe sends me a snake in a brand new box, and the box is mint when it arrives and the box is clean (no waste), I will wipe it out with a disinfectant and store it away for future re-use. It's not because I can't afford a new box. It's not because am too cheap to buy a new box. I do order new from superior enterprises. I re-use because I try to recycle when I can.

To 'blacklist' someone because of their moral compass is pretty shameful.

No snake or lizard I have shipped was lost, damaged or killed due to using a good, clean re-used box.

As far as mites, I would not buy a snake from someone who has mites. If I did get a box with mites I would be all over the seller and the box would be destroyed. As I stated though, I only purchase from people with a good rep. If someone is re-using dirty old mite infested boxes, I am sure they do not have a good rep.

Rick

What I mean as long as the seller would be aware of potential problems by reusing the box would guarantee my snake longer then 14 days no problem. I just want to protect my snakes, the sellers reputation, and the health of the animal. No offense meant to anyone out there on my stand point.

lance

I don't reuse them. If I get a snake it goes to QT and I assume everything that came with it could be contaminated as well. Thus all bags and boxes go straight into the trash. Just not worth the risk IMO.

And as I buyer, I would be VERY upset if I received a box that had been used before for the above stated reasons. I don't know where that box has been and don't want boxes that have been in contact with unknown collections coming into my collection.

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Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps

I don't reuse them. If I get a snake it goes to QT and I assume everything that came with it could be contaminated as well. Thus all bags and boxes go straight into the trash. Just not worth the risk IMO.

And as I buyer, I would be VERY upset if I received a box that had been used before for the above stated reasons. I don't know where that box has been and don't want boxes that have been in contact with unknown collections coming into my collection.

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If you had a snake I wanted to buy and I looked into your rep, and it was good, and I ordered a snake from you and the snake arrived promptly and in good health, in a brand new shiny box, I would QT the snake and inspect/disinfect the box and place it away for future use.

If I didn't trust that the snake from you was likely to be free of mites and in good condition, I wouldn't have ordered from you. If the snake did end up with mites, EVERYTHING in the QT room would be treated.

You are MORE likely to pick up mites from walking into a pet store, vet office or expo, than you are from receiving a snake in the mail from a respected breeder. And if you did pick up some hitchhiker mites from a local collection, the QT room will do you no good. Your snakes and your stack of new boxes could get mites crawling around on them too.

The point is that a clean, structually sound box is just a box.

Rick

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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles

If you had a snake I wanted to buy and I looked into your rep, and it was good, and I ordered a snake from you and the snake arrived promptly and in good health, in a brand new shiny box, I would QT the snake and inspect/disinfect the box and place it away for future use.

If I didn't trust that the snake from you was likely to be free of mites and in good condition, I wouldn't have ordered from you. If the snake did end up with mites, EVERYTHING in the QT room would be treated.

You are MORE likely to pick up mites from walking into a pet store, vet office or expo, than you are from receiving a snake in the mail from a respected breeder. And if you did pick up some hitchhiker mites from a local collection, the QT room will do you no good. Your snakes and your stack of new boxes could get mites crawling around on them too.

The point is that a clean, structually sound box is just a box.

Rick

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extremely well said :)

lance

i wash all cloth bags before reusing them.with boxes that are in good used condition i put them in the chest freezer for two weeks or longer before reusing them.

i just find it hard to throw away good used items in a effort to try to impress a customer.have fun!

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Originally Posted by SiscoReptiles

If you had a snake I wanted to buy and I looked into your rep, and it was good, and I ordered a snake from you and the snake arrived promptly and in good health, in a brand new shiny box, I would QT the snake and inspect/disinfect the box and place it away for future use.

If I didn't trust that the snake from you was likely to be free of mites and in good condition, I wouldn't have ordered from you. If the snake did end up with mites, EVERYTHING in the QT room would be treated.

You are MORE likely to pick up mites from walking into a pet store, vet office or expo, than you are from receiving a snake in the mail from a respected breeder. And if you did pick up some hitchhiker mites from a local collection, the QT room will do you no good. Your snakes and your stack of new boxes could get mites crawling around on them too.

The point is that a clean, structually sound box is just a box.

Rick

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Right, but doesn't matter for me. Of course I only buy from people who I trust and believe them to have satisfactory husbandry. But I think its best to always assume the worst that they could have an unknown disease or something that they nor I don't know about.

A box is maybe $3 tops. I'd rather use and receive new boxes every time, than to risk a $1k snake, just to be on the paranoid and safe side.

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Originally Posted by twh

i just find it hard to throw away good used items in a effort to try to impress a customer.have fun!

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I don't think its an issue of impressing a customer, but doing your best to ensure they get a healthy snake.

And for me as a customer, that means using a new box/bag/deli cup when I receive a shipment. As a customer I would be very upset if I received a snake in a used box or bag.

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Originally Posted by twh

i wash all cloth bags before reusing them.with boxes that are in good used condition i put them in the chest freezer for two weeks or longer before reusing them.

i just find it hard to throw away good used items in a effort to try to impress a customer.have fun!

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I would think this would take care of contamination concerns. I would have no problem receiving a snake in used shipping materials if they were treated like this.

Also, I think the cost issue is being brought up when the real issue is having perfectly fine cardboard, bags and styrofoam being tossed in landfills.

I have reused boxes,as long as they're in good shape.Snake bags, not really. But, I have kept and reused my 8Ballpythons snake bags for other misc purposes...:D (heck, now they're prob collector's items,lol)