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  • 11-10-2009, 05:04 PM
    Mitch21
    Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    So I started this project mid summer but with work being heavy at the time and then traveling for a month, things were very slow to come around. Nonetheless, it is finally finished!

    The room is about 6 1/2' x 8' and is insulated on all walls and the ceiling. It holds the heat beautifully and with the fan running, I've only got about a one degree variance at most between the top and bottom of the room.

    Here's the view from the outside.
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1561.jpg

    Walking into the room...
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1568.jpg

    The ASF rack. I've got a water line coming in from the wall that has a switch and runs into the reservoir. Looking back, I should have just run the water line into the rack.
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1562.jpg
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1565.jpg

    The snake rack and some tubs...
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1566.jpg

    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1564.jpg

    I've got the one light on a switch and the other is running on a timer so that the animals get a light cycle.
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1563.jpg

    And here's the phosphorous acid carbon filter. It takes about 99% of the ammonia smell from the ASFs.
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1571.jpg

    Thanks for looking!
  • 11-10-2009, 05:06 PM
    illini4x4
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Awesome set up! I would love to have something like this one day! Great job!
  • 11-10-2009, 05:22 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    You HAVE to tell me 2 things....

    Where did you get the fan on top of the heater and do you find it safe.

    Where did you get the air cleaner? Home made? Plans?

    Looks good man!
  • 11-10-2009, 05:50 PM
    jason79
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Nice set up. looks good
  • 11-10-2009, 06:05 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    You HAVE to tell me 2 things....

    Where did you get the fan on top of the heater and do you find it safe.

    Where did you get the air cleaner? Home made? Plans?

    Looks good man!



    I second both of these question I love the room. I wonder if the cleaner will work with rats too?
  • 11-10-2009, 06:08 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    You HAVE to tell me 2 things....

    Where did you get the fan on top of the heater and do you find it safe.

    Where did you get the air cleaner? Home made? Plans?

    Looks good man!


    I originally got the idea from Jake Wallace. And since then, I had just kept my eyes out for the materials. I got the 10" fan that is just sitting on top of the radiator as well as a handfull of the 4" fans from work. They were throwing an enourmous computer station out and I just took all the fans off before the garbage came.

    The 10" fan is a Comair Rotron CL2T2. I don't think they make them anymore but if you google it, there's tons of fans. If not, just go to the manufacturer's website...
    http://www.comairrotron.com/index.shtml

    The 10" fan does work on my little 7' x 8' room. I keep it at half power and it keeps tempts perfect.

    I couldn't tell you the model number of the 4" fans I've got, but they're approximately 2" thick and 4" in diameter so that could help if you buy from that site.


    I built the air cleaner out of a 2 gallon bucket, 4" PVC pipe, window screening, and PA Carbon (plus the fan). First I measured and cut the PVC pipe to fit perfectly in the bucket with the lid closed. You want it tight so it'll form an air tight seal. Then I drilled holes about 3/4" apart on the PVC pipe, and drilled holes about 1" apart on the bucket. I measured and cut a 4" hole on the bottom of the 2 gallon bucket. Cut some screen to size and superglued it in place. Used a special 'hard plastic' adhesive that I bought from Sears hardware to mount the PVC pipe to the bucket. Drilled my pilot holes for the fan and mounted the fan. Used the same plastic adhesive to seal around the fan. And then stuck the 1/4" "squishy adhesives" to the inside of the lid to help with the air tight seal.

    I didn't take pics of the building as it was quite simple. But these pics should definitely explain themselves.

    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1573.jpg[IMG]http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1572.jpg[/IMG]http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1575.jpg

    Then just mount it somewhere in the room with a hook bolt.
    http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/CIMG1571.jpg
  • 11-10-2009, 06:12 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Do you fill the bucket with the Carbon?
  • 11-10-2009, 06:12 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Oh and I should probably include where to get the PA Carbon (phosphorous acid carbon).

    I contacted Sara at AAAAircare@aol.com. They do a minimum order of a 20lb bucket which is a 5gal. And from my estimates, I'd imagine the 20lbs would give you about 2 1/2 or 3 total uses with the fan replacing about every 9 months or so depending on size of the room, smell, etc...
  • 11-10-2009, 06:13 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Do you fill the bucket with the Carbon?

    Yes, you put the carbon between the PVC and the bucket. I originally used activated carbon, but that cannot get rid of ammonia. PA Carbon is used to ammonia fumes.

    The filter should most definitely also work on mice and rats.
  • 11-10-2009, 06:24 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    looks great I bet a 120 mm fan could work to if need be. I think i set mine to pull the air out ( forming a vacum cause the cair ot get pulled though the carbon it might be easier.. I also ask do you know if the carbon has to be disposed of any special way onced used.( I hate to findI got to have it consider as bio hazard )???
  • 11-10-2009, 06:27 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post
    looks great I bet a 120 mm fan could work to if need be. I think i set mine to pull the air out ( forming a vacum cause the cair ot get pulled though the carbon it might be easier.. I also ask do you know if the carbon has to be disposed of any special way onced used.( I hate to findI got to have it consider as bio hazard )???

    Same here. The fan on the filter pulls the air through the bucket and drawing it out the bottom.

    As far as disposing of carbon, I don't think it has to be disposed of in any special way, but I'm not entirely sure. Months from now when that time comes, I'll do the research on that. :)
  • 11-10-2009, 06:43 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Pictures are kind of hard to take in the room since it's so small, but here's the youtube video of it. It definitely give you a better idea of it.

    YouTube - Snake/Rat Room
  • 11-10-2009, 11:36 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    I like that room man but mine large and still no enough lol my room is something like 8x9( feet ) but i do have 2 racks a coke machine ( future incubator) plus to rodent tanks I need ot get a rodent rack build I just not sure if I cna do it and it work since I would need the tubs an hardware cloth first. befoer i consider trying ( this summer I hope) I liek the water bottle bit but my luck it leak all the time or they chew a hose end off and i have a mess. of dead rats from drowning.
  • 11-10-2009, 11:44 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Very cool man...was wondering if it was about done! Looks very nice! bet you are pumped!
  • 11-11-2009, 12:33 AM
    MAballs
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    now let's fill that room with racks and snakes :)
  • 11-11-2009, 12:37 AM
    Boanerges
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Nice job Mitch!!! Awsome pics and video too :gj:
  • 11-11-2009, 12:44 AM
    cgator
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    awesome snake room looks great but i would hate to see the new addition to your electric bill also
  • 11-11-2009, 12:47 AM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    very impressive!!!
  • 11-11-2009, 01:57 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cgator View Post
    awesome snake room looks great but i would hate to see the new addition to your electric bill also

    I'm not too worried about the new electric bill. I don't think it's going to be any big shocker. My lights are energy savers (10w equivalents), the fan is only sucking up about 30w, and snakes are sucking up 32w, and I have the oil filled radiator on the absolute lowest setting.

    So the bill is clearly going to be higher, but it's all worth it! :)
  • 11-12-2009, 11:06 AM
    cgator
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    you are right its worth it ...if i had the space id do the same
  • 11-12-2009, 12:15 PM
    Drew87
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Nice man, now fill it up!!! :salute:
  • 11-12-2009, 03:24 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Finally finished the snake/rat room! DUW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drew87 View Post
    Nice man, now fill it up!!! :salute:

    I'm workin' on it! This year was the year of getting the room setup with the rat rack (plus buying a butter female :D). Next year will be the year of buying lots O' snakes!!
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