What do these morph combos produce?

I am pairing up my male %100 het lavender albino with my %100 het pied. They have been locking up like crazy the past week. I was thinking the male was too small but it seems like he is up to the task. Will they produce %50 double hets? im not too sure. any info will help Im kinda new, only been into ball pythons for about 2 yrs now and my babies I purchased are getting of age now.

Im confused in the hets. Is it an albino het lavander, or double het for lavander AND albino?

Since you are dealing with 3 recesive, you would get possible triple hets. Again confused about the albino.

It is het for lavender albino wich is totally diff from an albino. you can basically just call it a lavender. but looks kinda like an albino but with lavender color where the white is in the albino. I think...lol.

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Originally Posted by customsnakes22

It is het for lavender albino wich is totally diff from an albino. you can basically just call it a lavender. but looks kinda like an albino but with lavender color where the white is in the albino. I think...lol.

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Oh duh didnt think about that lol. Ya seems like possible double hets, untill you prove them out. That seems kinda rough to prove them out.

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Originally Posted by customsnakes22

I am pairing up my male %100 het lavender albino with my %100 het pied. They have been locking up like crazy the past week. I was thinking the male was too small but it seems like he is up to the task. Will they produce %50 double hets? im not too sure. any info will help Im kinda new, only been into ball pythons for about 2 yrs now and my babies I purchased are getting of age now.

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not a good pairing IMHO, sorry.

you would expect all NORMAL looking babies.
het Albino X het Lavender =
25.00% Normal
25.00% het. Albino
25.00% het. Lavender
25.00% het. Albino, het. Lavender

basiclly every animal has a 50/50 chance at being a het of some kind and a 25% chance of being a DH.. Pretty long Odds

Yeah I agree kinda tuff....I just figured that id pair them up since they are the only two I have that are breedable. My fem het lav is only 600 grams and my male het pied is only 400+ grams. next year I should be able to pair up my het pieds tho and produce some visuals, but im lookin at a few years till I can pair up my female het lav with my male het lav. Im hoping that some of the babies have the really defined het pied markers like the mom does and those will be the ones I keep and try and prove out.

Ok, I had to go look at this because my brain just refuses to retain this but here's what I found. Someone who's a pro at this needs to let us know if it's right though.

Na x Na =
NN - normal/wild type
Na - Double Het.
Na - Double Het.
aa - Morph

Should I try and put my het pied male in with the female het pied? He is only a little over 400 grams now. So I should prob take the het lav out and wait for my male to gain a little weight?

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Originally Posted by singingtothewheat

Ok, I had to go look at this because my brain just refuses to retain this but here's what I found. Someone who's a pro at this needs to let us know if it's right though.

Na x Na =
NN - normal/wild type
Na - Double Het.
Na - Double Het.
aa - Morph

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That going to depend on what Na stands for..

Do it like this

N = Normal
p= het Pied
la = het Lav

Np x Nla =

NN = normal
Np = het pied
Nla = Het Lav
lap = DH Lav Pied

Its het pied not albino to a het lav..but yeah I now get what your sayin.

Tha males could breed pretty young. You can try it out.

So %25 should be double het lav albino x het pied? If so I would just try and prove out the distinct het pied markers. I know you cant always depend on the markers but that would be my best bet?

Yeah I think I will take the het lav out and in a few days see if the little guy is up to it.

Here is an awesome site for that.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard


MALE: Het Lavender Albino
FEMALE: Het Piebald


25%: Normal
25%: Het Piebald
25%: Het Lavender Albino
25%: Het Lavender Albino, Het Piebald



Punnet Square:
Normal Het Piebald
Normal Normal Het Piebald
Het Lavender Albino Het Lavender Albino Het Lavender Albino, Het Piebald

When dealing with hets if they are not both 100% het for the same thing then all babies will be normals with some possibly being het but they could only be sold as possible hets.

I would try to pair the het pieds. The males can breed as early as 6 to 8 months if they are producing plugs. It may not be the best idea to breed so young but it does happen. If the male is ready he will breed. If not, there is always late season or next year.