yellow belly pied or not?

[IMG]http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...me/pics086.jpg[/IMG]

Looks like a regular pied to me.

i'd have to say regular Pied. Has got some nice yellow on the belly... but that dosent make him a Yellow Belly. Any particular reason you question whether he's a YB?

i was told he was when i bought him. but still only paid 700 at that size so its ok:)

Search the forum for Pumpkin Pied... one was posted last season and they really are quite distinct looking in color from a regular pied (and definitely one of my favorite pieds actually).

I want to say it was produced by Justin... but not 100% on that.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Search the forum for Pumpkin Pied... one was posted last season and they really are quite distinct looking in color from a regular pied (and definitely one of my favorite pieds actually).

I want to say it was produced by Justin... but not 100% on that.

Bruce

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I believe the Pumkin Pied actually has a hidden gene in it also. So it is a yellowbelly pied with the "X" gene I think he calls it(Justin Kobylka). But he did produce some yellowbelly pieds out of the same clutch though.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...t=pumpkin+pied

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...t=pumpkin+pied

Yeah... it got the better of me. As noted Justin thinks there is something else going on with this line, so I guess it is not the best one to compare to (remember being just blown away when I saw them for the first time!).

Might want to find a few threads from the others that have hatched them out to see if you may actually have one?

bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...t=pumpkin+pied

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...t=pumpkin+pied

Yeah... it got the better of me. As noted Justin thinks there is something else going on with this line, so I guess it is not the best one to compare to (remember being just blown away when I saw them for the first time!).

Might want to find a few threads from the others that have hatched them out to see if you may actually have one?

bruce

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http://jkobylkareptiles.com/incubato...9+Clutch+%2316

The 2nd picture, the animal on the left is a YB Piebald.

the guy i got him from got him from justin

he is a sibling to the 08 pumpkin pied

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Originally Posted by merdcme

the guy i got him from got him from justin

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He may have gotten a Piebald from Justin, but I know for a fact that Justin has only made 1 Yellow Belly Piebald and 2 Pumpkin Pieds to date. And 2 of those were made this year.

Again made in this clutch:
http://jkobylkareptiles.com/incubato...9+Clutch+%2316

I am a close friend of Justin's have work very closely with him on his website.

You've Got PM BTW.

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Originally Posted by merdcme

he is a sibling to the 08 pumpkin pied

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Do you mean a clutch mate? Because the Clutch that contained the Pumpkin Pied in '08 didn't have another Piebald in it:
http://jkobylkareptiles.com/incubato...8+Clutch+%23X1

Sounds to me like you got lied to my friend.

Ninja Edit:
I just double checked his Incubator, and he only had 2 clutches where Yellow Bellies were involved, 1 being Pumpkin Pied and the 2nd being a "Who's your daddy" clutch that had nothing to do with Piebalds.

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Sounds to me like you got lied to my friend.

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I kind of grimaced when I saw that too... one last year and two this year. :(

bruce

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Originally Posted by merdcme

i was told he was when i bought him. but still only paid 700 at that size so its ok:)

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Did you buy him local to you?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Did you buy him local to you?

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I think I may know who he got his collection from...I don't know any names but I'll be making a couple of phone calls in the morning. If it is who I think it was I'm afraid you may have gotten ripped off man.

Even if it is a regular pied it is worth the $700 imo. Stinks that you were told it was something else but still definately not a loss.

i agree:gj:

The pictured pied is a normal piebald that I produced last season. I only produced one Pumpkin Pied last year and it is still with me. Like others said above, $700 is a good deal for a pied of that size, I just wish you hadn't been told that is was also a YB. I never gave the seller that impression.

Get some meals in that boy, looks like he could use it! :)

Justin

i've definatly upped the feeding for all the snakes. thanks for the comfromation justin! i'm VERY happy with him and all of my animals no matter what!:)

Pied. There isn't much (any) indications of influence from a yellowbelly. But it still looks very nice! :)