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  • 11-02-2009, 04:44 PM
    rabernet
    Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Did you make your calls and send out faxes today? November 5th is THREE days away - we need to be heard, and we need everyone to make their calls and send their faxes.

    Please call each person once a day - click on the red alert banner on the forum to get to the post that lists the phone numbers and fax numbers.
  • 11-02-2009, 06:31 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Soo....is that a resounding no, then?

    Folks, this is serious business - it's important that we ALL make our calls. Don't sit back and think that someone else will do it.
  • 11-02-2009, 06:45 PM
    JAMills
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Made My Calls and Sent My Faxes!
    Called every phone # on the list and sent a fax to every Fax # on the list!

    Sound off people, This issue needs everyones support!
  • 11-02-2009, 07:47 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    This is tiring! The last time this ban was up I called and faxed my brains out! Not to mention I joined USARK as a bronze member.

    I wish they would hurry up and leave this matter alone. Its such a waste of taxpayers money. Most of their arguments are completely false or make no sense at all. Its just rediculas. I wish they could all spend one hour reading through this forum just to see some truth about the entire herp nation and just how many people would be damaged by a ban like this.

    Im really getting sick of this.

    Something that didnt even occur to me until now.. I wonder if they have even thought about the possibility of herps going up in value if they did ban them. Through history everytime something gets banned people do more and pay more to get whatever that is in their possesion. Wouldnt that be a slap in the face of these congress people? IF they ever do succeed in passing a ban, I sincerely hope that is exactly what happens. I hope that nothing, not even new (rediculas) laws will ever stop the herpers.
  • 11-02-2009, 08:01 PM
    jason79
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    I had the wife call and fax all the nubers on the list today.
  • 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    THANK YOU to the three of you! Gold stars all around!

    Who else?
  • 11-02-2009, 10:21 PM
    Oroborous
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Well, I haven't even heard about this newest threat, they just keep coming. I'm glad I did see it though, I'll be making some calls.
  • 11-02-2009, 10:41 PM
    Big Gunns
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    *OK peeps. Big Gunns is giving out free Candyballs to everyone that does what they need to do.




    *= broken arms and leggs if you don't do it.:D


    Big Gunns can't even begin to explain how much he is sick and tired of this.

    What happened to "the land of the free"? Somebody please tell BG what happened. It's PATHETIC and Big Gunns is so tired of it.:taz::taz::taz:
  • 11-02-2009, 10:47 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    I don't have any minutes on my phone, but when I get home tomorrow I'll call.
  • 11-02-2009, 10:57 PM
    Jyson
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    I along with like 35 other various people (my neighbors, friends, family members) are going to be calling and faxing tomorrow.

    And if they don't they be getting a 4 foot, angry boa placed into their beds. ;) j/k...or am I? :twisted:
  • 11-03-2009, 07:22 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    *OK peeps. Big Gunns is giving out free Candyballs to everyone that does what they need to do.

    Of the slithering kind, or truly hard candy? :P

    C'mon folks - this is Day 2 to make your calls and send in your faxes. Let your voice be heard. Don't assume that someone else is going to do this, in fact, assume that they aren't, and get angry enough to not sit idly by and let that happen!
  • 11-03-2009, 11:15 AM
    ColdBloodedCarnival
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Faxing every number on the list!
  • 11-03-2009, 11:51 AM
    Karbon
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Called every number on the list yesterday.

    In the middle of calling every number on the list as of right now for today.

    Thank goodness for unlimited minutes on my cell :D
  • 11-03-2009, 02:04 PM
    steveboos
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    I called 70% of the list today, but no free land line minutes. Some of the lines are busy, and some secretaries have commented on the large amount of phone calls they are recieving about the HR2811 bill. We are a big community and wont go down easy.
  • 11-03-2009, 02:21 PM
    abuja
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    No, not yet.

    However, I'm enlisting the help of my friends via facebook and my family via email.

    Today and tomorrow, we're ALL going to call!

    We won't go down, at least not without a fight!!!
  • 11-03-2009, 03:19 PM
    MissMowgli
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Made my phone calls, but don't have easy access to a fax machine. Any ideas?
  • 11-03-2009, 03:51 PM
    Jyson
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Made all my calls and did the faxing. I couldn't however get through to Congressman John Lewis..I'm going to try calling tomorrow.
  • 11-03-2009, 03:52 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Your local Library or Kinkos office should be able to fax them for you.

    I made all my calls as well.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MissMowgli View Post
    Made my phone calls, but don't have easy access to a fax machine. Any ideas?

  • 11-03-2009, 05:26 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Sorry, I didn't reply to the thread, but been making my calls, etc. as always.
  • 11-03-2009, 06:42 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Thank you all for making your calls and faxes today - don't forget to do the same tomorrow!!!!
  • 11-03-2009, 07:15 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Calls all made today :)

    some reps said they had gotten a lot of calls about HR2811, some seemed not that pleased but everyone was polite. I'll be making calls tomorrow.
  • 11-03-2009, 09:52 PM
    Hypnotic Exotic
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Made my calls and now I'm going to vent. Is it just me or has anybody else noticed that it's always the Democrats who want to know your zip code? I noticed the exact same thing on the HR669 campaign. So basically if we can't vote for them or against them, they don't care.
  • 11-03-2009, 10:07 PM
    stormwulf133
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    I will be calling tomorrow. This is getting really old. These people need to be made gone.
  • 11-03-2009, 10:48 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    *OK peeps. Big Gunns is giving out free Candyballs to everyone that does what they need to do.




    *= broken arms and leggs if you don't do it.:D


    Big Gunns can't even begin to explain how much he is sick and tired of this.

    What happened to "the land of the free"? Somebody please tell BG what happened. It's PATHETIC and Big Gunns is so tired of it.:taz::taz::taz:

    Ok BG you can send me my new candyball whenever you're ready.. Just so you dont lose too much profit i'll take a male and i'll promise you one visible morph offspring in the future! ;) (Somehow I get the feeling he's full of it but hey maybe its just me) :hijackd: LMAO!
  • 11-04-2009, 12:20 AM
    singingtothewheat
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO YOUR PART TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS

    Please join the Reptile Nation in a Congressional Call In Opposing HR2811 aka The Python Ban November 2, 3 & 4.If you value your Boas & Pythons you will participate and encourage your entire sphere of influence to do the same. There is a Hearing in front of the House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Crime,Terrorism & Homeland Security scheduled for November 5th. Please call in and OPPOSE HR2811.


    As originally written HR2811 would add the entire genus python to the Injurious Wildlife List of the Lacey Act. This would effectively end the Import, Export and Interstate Transport of any animals listed. In July USARK was successful in narrowing the scope of the bill by removing most pythons with an amendment offered by Congressman Tom Rooney. The amendment would limit the bill to the Burmese Python and the African Python. In addition committee staff agreed in principle to further amend the bill to allow the captive bred trade in these two snakes to continue. To date this promise has not been kept and the HR2811 has not been amended to allow for captive bred trade.


    Meanwhile the USGS Risk Assessment of 9 Large Constricting Snakes has been released. The Humane Society of the United States is lobbying hard to have HR2811 amended to include the entire genus python, as well as the four species of anaconda, and Boa Constrictor referred to in the USGS report. Do not assume that HSUS will not be successful in getting HR2811 amended to reflect these changes. Only USARK and the Reptile Nation stand between HSUS and the destruction of our community.


    Our science experts have done a cursory analysis of the USGS report and characterize it as “…loose with numerous mistakes and inaccuracies. It is an oversimplification of a very complicated topic.”The bottom line is it is not the solid piece of science HSUS wanted to use as a tool to break the back of our community. However that has not stopped them from mischaracterizing it as just that.


    What can I do?


    ***November 2,3 & 4 Call In and Fax the Subcommittee and voice your opposition to HR2811. Be polite & professional!


    Script:
    My name is____. I oppose HR2811. It is overly simplistic and politically driven. It is poorly thought out and sacrifices good science forpolitical expediency. The negative economic impact for my family and business would be significant. Please oppose HR2811. Thank you for your consideration.


    Call List:
    Sponsor:


    Congressman Kendrick Meek (D-FL), Sponsor
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4506; fax 202-226-0777
    Miami: phone 305-690-5905; fax 305-690-5951


    Cosponsors:


    Congressman Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-1313; fax 202-225-8398
    Ft. Lauderdale: phone 954-733-2800


    Congressman John Lewis (D-GA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3801; fax 202-225-0351
    Atlanta: phone 404-659-0116


    Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3001; fax 202-225-5974
    Boca Raton: phone 561-988-6302; fax 561-988-6423


    Congresswoman Mazie Hirono (HI-2)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4906; fax 202-225-4987
    Honolulu: phone 808-541-1986


    Congressman Tom Rooney (R-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5792; fax 202-225-3132
    Punta Gorda: phone 941-575-9101; fax 941-575-9103


    Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism & Homeland Security:


    Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-8351; fax 202-225-8354
    Richmond: phone 804-644-4845


    Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3072; fax 202-225-3336
    San Jose: phone 408-271-8700


    Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee (D-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3816; fax 202-225-3317
    Houston: phone 713-691-4882


    Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-2201; fax 202-225-7854
    Los Angeles: phone 323-757-8900


    Congressman Steve Cohen (D-TN)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3265; fax 202-225-5663
    Memphis: phone 901-544-4131


    Congressman Pedro Pierluisi (D-PR)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-2615; fax 202-225-2154
    San Juan: phone 787-723-6333


    Congressman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5431; fax 202-225-9681
    Roanoke: phone 540-857-2672


    Congressman Dan Lungren (R-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5716; fax 202-226-1298
    Gold River: phone 916-859-9906


    Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3035; fax 202-226-1230
    Tyler: phone 903-561-6349


    Congressman Ted Poe (R-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6565; fax 202-225-5547
    Beaumont: phone 409-212-1997


    Congressman Randy Forbes (R-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6365; fax 202-226-1170
    Chesapeake: 757-382-0080; fax 757-382-0780


    Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5635
    New York: phone 212-367-7350


    Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-7931; fax 202-226-2052
    Pembroke Pines: phone 954-437-3936; fax 954-437-4776


    Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6616
    Brooklyn: phone 718-743-0441


    Congressman Mike Quigley (D-IL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4061; fax 202-225-5603
    Chicago: phone 773-267-5926; fax 773-267-6583
  • 11-04-2009, 01:08 AM
    GregBennett
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Made some calls.

    I still don't understand why this website doesn't send mass PM's to all their users. During the 669 thing I Pm'ed and emailed the people in charge asking them why and got no real answer.

    If pythons get banned this website will be no more. You'd think the people in charge would care a little more and do something as simple as hitting a button that would let all the registered users know about these new bills.

    I think we (the reptile community) may be a day late and a dollar short when it comes to stopping the inevitable from happening (reptiles being banned in the US). The people in this hobby/biz are just to lazy or just not very caring when it comes to there love of keeping reptiles it seems. I'm not saying all of them are but the large majority of keepers or breeders just don't seem to care.

    I still don't understand why it's so freaking hard for people to pick up a phone or print off some letters and do their part to protect (what they say they love and care about) our hobby.

    Well that's my rant for the day. Back to my cave I go. They'll have to fight me to take my snakes.

    (insert middle finger smiley) PETA and HSUS!!!!
  • 11-04-2009, 01:41 AM
    icygirl
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Well, this all happened at the wrong time for me. Last time (HR669) it was in the summer and I had time to spare, now I get up at 6 or 7am and get home around 11pm, sometimes later. Gotta love that engineering major. Literally I am busy ALL day. So ya'll with ANY TIME WHATSOEVER, please call call call and/or fax.

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!



    ...would it make any sense if I tried calling Thursday?
  • 11-04-2009, 08:30 AM
    Denial
    Re: Hr2811 - have you made your calls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icygirl View Post
    Well, this all happened at the wrong time for me. Last time (HR669) it was in the summer and I had time to spare, now I get up at 6 or 7am and get home around 11pm, sometimes later. Gotta love that engineering major. Literally I am busy ALL day. So ya'll with ANY TIME WHATSOEVER, please call call call and/or fax.

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!



    ...would it make any sense if I tried calling Thursday?

    it wouldnt make sense if you didnt.
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