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"Dwarf" Burmese

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  • 10-28-2009, 02:06 PM
    BigLu
    "Dwarf" Burmese
    A friend of mine got a "dwarf" burmese through a trade a about 3 months ago. We dont know much about her other then shes a little over 6 months old and still weighs less then 100 grams!!! Shes been eating 2 x week since he got her. How exactly does one tell if it truley is a dwarf? And are "dwarfs" just runts. I will try and get pictures of her up asap.
  • 10-28-2009, 02:15 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    wikipedia (not always the best source for reptile info, but the first stuff I found to quote):

    Quote:

    Breeders have recently begun working with an island lineage of Burmese Pythons. Early reports indicate that these "Dwarf" Burmese have a slightly different colouring and pattern than their mainland relatives and do not grow much over 2.1 metres (7 ft) long. The "Dwarf" Burmese were first captively reproduced by Beau Lewis of Arizona, USA.
  • 10-28-2009, 02:16 PM
    BILLB OKC
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    I can not answear any of your questions.
    But, if in fact there is such an animal and they don't exceed 6 or 7 feet,

    I WANT ONE!
  • 10-28-2009, 02:44 PM
    BigLu
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
  • 10-28-2009, 02:52 PM
    likebull1
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    You might want to take her to the vet and get a fecal exam done to check for internal parasites.
    Do you have any paperwork.
    And just out of curiosity what was traded for the "dwarf", they are not exactly a common snake?
  • 10-28-2009, 02:54 PM
    xdeus
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigLu View Post
    A friend of mine got a "dwarf" burmese through a trade a about 3 months ago. We dont know much about her other then shes a little over 6 months old and still weighs less then 100 grams!!! Shes been eating 2 x week since he got her. How exactly does one tell if it truley is a dwarf? And are "dwarfs" just runts. I will try and get pictures of her up asap.

    That sounds very small, even for a dwarf Burm. What exactly are they feeding her? From the looks of her she could probably handle an adult mouse.
  • 10-28-2009, 03:06 PM
    MarkS
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    One thing that I've heard is that the wild caught males will breed readily but the wild caught females are difficult so many if not most of them are NOT pure dwarfs but rather a cross between a true dwarf male and a normal burmese female. Also, there are NO known mutations of this race so if you get one that's a 'het' or a 'morph' it's not a true dwarf but has been crossed with a regular sized burmese.
  • 10-28-2009, 03:07 PM
    BigLu
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Shes taking hoppers right now and they still make a bulge in her belly everytime she takes one down. An adult would be to large imo. She has shed about 4 times since he has had her, and she is currently in shed right now. What are tell tale signs of internal parasites? she seems extremely healthy. It was traded for a work truck.
  • 10-28-2009, 04:40 PM
    TheresaBearden
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    There are a couple of breeders working with the dwarf burms right now. There have been a few dwarf to normal breedings-producing the half dwarf burms. I have a pair of green het granite half dwarf burms produced by our partner Jim Mason.

    The dwarf burms do look different from a normal burm, they have a distinctly different more chaotic pattern, their heads are shaped somewhat different and they have a short stockier body (they look like little torpedoes to me). They also tend to be "flighty", they are not usually biters they just tend to be more active and high strung.
  • 10-28-2009, 05:01 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    hey buddy I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the snake in the tub on the scale is an african rock python
  • 10-28-2009, 06:31 PM
    TheresaBearden
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    hey buddy I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the snake in the tub on the scale is an african rock python

    Danny-how can you see it? The pics are too dark for me to see anything.
  • 10-28-2009, 06:48 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheresaBearden View Post
    Danny-how can you see it? The pics are too dark for me to see anything.

    Hey T. you can see it better in the second picture.
  • 10-28-2009, 07:10 PM
    BigLu
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Ill get better pics. my first thought was that it wasnt even a burm but maybe a cross/hybrid. but I trusted my buddies instinct. apparently he was wrong. So he has an african rock python? dont know much about them and havnt even seen many to of been able to make the distinction
  • 10-28-2009, 07:15 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Yep its a african rock python. Pretty much same basics as burms. Its a very pretty rock I just hope your buddy didnt pay to much for it because dwarf burms cost alot more then african rocks
  • 10-28-2009, 07:20 PM
    BigLu
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    he traded an old junker car that had been sittin around. but even still at under 100 grams for a 6 month old african rock is that right? how big do these snakes get?
  • 10-28-2009, 07:20 PM
    waltah!
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    I that's an Afrock then there is nothing dwarf about it.
  • 10-28-2009, 07:23 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    afrocks get just as big as burms do. And so far I dont believe there are any dwarf burms. But without papers or proof being a dwarf all you have is the sellers word for it and it could either not be 6 months old. Or it could of been maintenance fed.
  • 10-28-2009, 07:31 PM
    2kdime
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Agreed, that's a Rock Python all day long.

    Get it checked for parasites when possible and start getting some meals in that animal.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    hey buddy I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the snake in the tub on the scale is an african rock python

  • 10-28-2009, 08:18 PM
    TheresaBearden
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    Hey T. you can see it better in the second picture.

    Its got to be my computer screen b/c I still can't see it......
  • 10-28-2009, 08:35 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Ill give you all the computer monitors you want for a hypo lol
  • 10-28-2009, 08:40 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Nice job spotting that out Denial!
    Well, prepare yourself for a very large animal.
  • 10-28-2009, 09:12 PM
    TheresaBearden
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    Ill give you all the computer monitors you want for a hypo lol

    I'll have a couple at the show for you to drool over:D:D:D
  • 10-28-2009, 09:21 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    And so far I dont believe there are any dwarf burms.

    They are around and very expensive. THey are pretty rare though. I found one a while back for around 3k or was it 2 Oh well I don't remember I am trying to find some online I really want one but could never afford one.
  • 10-28-2009, 09:35 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sg1trogdor View Post
    They are around and very expensive. THey are pretty rare though. I found one a while back for around 3k or was it 2 Oh well I don't remember I am trying to find some online I really want one but could never afford one.

    Sorry about that I meant to put dwarf rocks.
  • 10-28-2009, 09:36 PM
    Denial
    Re: "Dwarf" Burmese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheresaBearden View Post
    I'll have a couple at the show for you to drool over:D:D:D

    And trust me I WILL be drooling lol
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