Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied

So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.

I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.

One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal. :confused:

My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?

Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction. :please:

Thank you for your time.

gale

yellowbelly is a codominant gene:

yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)

Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)

yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied

Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
- 66% het pieds
- yellow bellies 66% het pied
- yellow belly pied
- ivoy 66% het pied
- ivory pied
- pieds

Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied

I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though :)

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Originally Posted by angllady2

So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.

I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.

One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal. :confused:

My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?

Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction. :please:

Thank you for your time.

gale

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If you breed a YB to a normal the clutch "should" be 1/2 YB 1/2 normals.There is no such thing as het YB,its either a YB or a normal.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

yellowbelly is a codominant gene:

yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)

Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)

yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied

Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
- 66% het pieds
- yellow bellies 66% het pied
- yellow belly pied
- ivoy 66% het pied
- ivory pied
- pieds

Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied

I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though :)

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You corrected the ivory pied in the last part :P.I hate it when i mess up to :gj:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

You corrected the ivory pied in the last part :P.I hate it when i mess up to :gj:

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lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"

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Been there done that :P

Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!

Justin

Thank you for clearing that up for me. :gj:

And I am sure that one place I visited said you would get all YB from a YB X Normal cross, which did not sound right since I was pretty sure YB was co-dominant.

However, you gave me exactly the information I needed, and I am now confident I can succeed with my YB Pied project. It will take time, but I am a patient person.

Thanks again,

Gale

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!

Justin

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i go to your site to drool over the YB pied at least once a week.

Is there an ivory pied in the works? i want to see what that would look like.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied

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Actually YB het Pied x Pied yields:

25% Het Pieds
25% YB Het Pieds
25% YB Pieds
25% Pieds

:gj:

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

i go to your site to drool over the YB pied at least once a week.

Is there an ivory pied in the works? i want to see what that would look like.

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Hopefully I'll have the ivory pied this season, I'm anxious to see it too!

Justin

Yea Justin's pumpkin pied would be nice to have at my haloween party in week. Such an awesome lookin animal.

Why are you going for a yellowbelly pied? to me they look like a normal pied. Not trying to bash just asking whats so special.

Well the honest answer to that is the coloring of the snakes I have seen. I've been crazy about pieds since I saw my first when it was on the cover of Reptiles magazine way back in the 90's.

The yellowbelly pied pictures I've seen so far, the colors are deeper and richer it seems to me. I like the high contrast. Now, I'm sure there are high contrast normals out there, maybe I'll even get one on my way to a YB pied, but to me it's just a personal preference thing. A lot of the normal pieds I've seen have somewhat duller coloring, and I like the high contrast.

Gale