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  • 10-25-2009, 06:25 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    The odds certainly went my way this season with the CM clutches. THANK YOU BALL GODS!!!! :cool:


    As promised earlier this season, I would be sharing breeding/incubation statistics/results at years end. Here they are. :D

    This last clutch, like all pairings this season, was Mojave Het to Het Caramel. Six eggs yielded 0.2 Caramel Mojaves 0.1 Caramel, 2.0 Mojave 66% PH Caramels.

    The sixth egg died in the egg due to yolk issues. Before incubation I marked it as "possible infertile" after candling due to poor vein structure. Cutting on day 56 revealed snake was laying/incased with more than half its yolk not absorbed. It was a Caramel Mojave with NO KINKING. I had to know whether it was the second male I was hoping for -- popping showed her to be another girl.:confused:

    Seasons' total for the project were:

    7 visuals: 1.5 Caramel Mojaves( minus the 1 DOA girl) and 1.1 Caramels --ZERO KINKING :gj:
    *** Bonus -- all the visuals were produced by 3 girls that are 50% Het Hypo. :banana::banana::banana:

    6.4 Mojave 66% PH Caramel

    3.1 66% PH Caramel

    INCUBATION:

    -- 87 degrees
    -- 6 quart CLOSED Sterlite boxes with eggcrate, perlite, and Press N Seal -- no breathing until day 45
    -- cut on day 55-56 -- hatched on day 58-60

    I will be raising all the visual girls with the intent of doing my part in putting the "infertile Caramel female" question to rest in a few years!!!

    I am looking forward to this spring in the hopes that my ever-growing CM boy will breed for me. I have some pretty codom girls waiting for his "lusty advances". :snake:

    I will update CM group as they grow. They are one of the few morphs that get DRAMATICALLY better with age.

    Thanks for looking. :D

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/7/2/3/7/3_cm.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...3/7/3_cm_1.jpg
  • 10-25-2009, 06:34 PM
    AaronP
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Good to know Bill! Looking forward to seeing some clutches from those Mojave Caramel girls :gj:.
  • 10-25-2009, 06:58 PM
    JMartin
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    I will be raising all the visual girls with the intent of doing my part in putting the "infertile Caramel female" question to rest in a few years!!!

    I just picked up a caramel female, and will be doing my part to put this to rest as well. Good luck with those awesome babys.:gj:
  • 10-25-2009, 09:22 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Mmm ... I am a huge fan of this combo :) One of the things I love is the back striping -- looks to me like that only showed up on your CMs, and not your caramel or mojo sibs ..? Has that been a consistent feature of all the caramel mojaves?
  • 10-25-2009, 09:48 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    That is crazy. So the what gene makes the Stripe...mojo or caramel?
  • 10-25-2009, 09:50 PM
    AaronP
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    That is crazy. So the what gene makes the Stripe...mojo or caramel?

    I'd say the Mojo, I've seen a few Mojos with that dorsal stripe. Especially when you consider that Mojos are a color and a pattern morph, where as Caramel Albinos are "just" a color morph.
  • 10-25-2009, 09:51 PM
    Nigel4less
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    This is one of, if not my favorite combo of the year! :)
  • 10-25-2009, 10:03 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    All i can say is MAJOR HOTTNESS :gj: :cool:
  • 10-25-2009, 10:12 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    Mmm ... I am a huge fan of this combo :) One of the things I love is the back striping -- looks to me like that only showed up on your CMs, and not your caramel or mojo sibs ..? Has that been a consistent feature of all the caramel mojaves?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    That is crazy. So the what gene makes the Stripe...mojo or caramel?

    It is the Mojo for sure folks. :gj:

    Many Mojaves have more "dashing" -- as seen below in the Mojave Pos Hets from my first CM clutch (below). The 2 genes together seem to "connect the dots/dashes" in almost all of the Caramel Mojaves.

    The girl from my second clutch has a full stripe with 3 TINY breaks. The lighter girl from #3 above has just the one break that I don't notice unless I am looking for it. I have no doubt I will get a perfect stripe in the future.

    Stripe looks really cool as the CM color intensifies with age -- much more contrast. :cool:



    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../3/7/cm1_1.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/7/2/3/7/cm1.jpg
  • 10-26-2009, 08:55 AM
    RegiusCo
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Frigin awesome Bill, you are now in the drivers seat for some Super Mystic/Phantom crosses, I can hardly imagine the boost of color a Caramel would give a Mystic Potion or Super Mystic/Phantom!

    Great job Sir! :)
  • 10-26-2009, 09:13 AM
    jkobylka
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Thanks for the update Bill! You had quite a season with those. GJ.

    Justin
  • 10-26-2009, 09:57 AM
    Albey
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Those are some very nice looking animals Bill. Congratulations on having such a great year with them and wishing you good luck getting the little boy going this season. http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/thumbsup.gif
  • 10-26-2009, 01:31 PM
    Python Dreams
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Congrats Bill! Those are some of the hottest looking Mojaves around!:gj:
  • 10-26-2009, 02:19 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    WOW!!!! Those are awesome! That one has a killer stripe and lots of carmel coloring! :gj:

    Oh my gosh they are awesome after they get a bit older! :bow:
  • 10-26-2009, 02:52 PM
    nwheat
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    They are gorgeous! Congrats on a great season!
  • 10-26-2009, 02:57 PM
    Drew87
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Huge congrats!!!!!!:salute:
  • 10-26-2009, 05:22 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RegiusCo View Post
    Frigin awesome Bill, you are now in the drivers seat for some Super Mystic/Phantom crosses, I can hardly imagine the boost of color a Caramel would give a Mystic Potion or Super Mystic/Phantom!

    Great job Sir! :)

    Those combos would certainly look great Marc. :gj:

    I am likely headed in another direction first. I have an 08 Special male that is breeding up a storm -- I hope to make a combo or 2 this season. If I can get even a little of the luck with that project I had with the CM's this year -- I could have a multi-gene Special boy by the time the CM girls are ready in 3 years or so. I have decided not to breed them younger than 3 no matter how big grow in the meantime!! :)
  • 10-26-2009, 10:04 PM
    Kylie
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    I love those caramel mojave's, their colouration is amazing... I want to add caramel to my small collection... I am leaning towards a caramel albino, BUT now I love those caramel mojave...
  • 10-29-2009, 10:12 PM
    Sloanreptiles
    Re: Caramel Mojave: Final clutch/season recap
    WOW Bill those have to be one of my favorite combos. Looks like you did good with Caramel Mojaves this season!:gj: You deserve it! Good luck this coming season!
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