Purple Passion? Angel Of Death? Soul Sucker?

Anyone know how to make these?

Daniel

soul sucker is hidden gene woma x lesser.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

soul sucker is hidden gene woma x lesser.

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Thanks,

Danel

I thought the Soul Sucker genetics were unknown to the general public. The hidden gene Woma x Lesser looks similar, but it is definitely not the same. (Check NERD's website.) The Soul Sucker just says Lesser Woma^2 without any additional information.

Purple Passion is the same as the Super Phantom - it was a joke name meant to tease Ralph.

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Originally Posted by Eventide

I thought the Soul Sucker genetics were unknown to the general public. The hidden gene Woma x Lesser looks similar, but it is definitely not the same. (Check NERD's website.) The Soul Sucker just says Lesser Woma^2 without any additional information.

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I think there is a Lesser/Regular Woma and the Soul Sucker is the Lesser/Hidden Gene Woma. They look very similar. If that's the case, then I'm wondering if the Yellowbelly/Pastel/Regular Woma looks similar to the Inferno. I've posed that question before but no response so I don't know if anybody knows or not. Also, there is no "hidden gene" from what I've heard. It's just a different line. Yet, I've seen the Inferno advertised as a 4 gene animal so unsure if there is another morph in there or not. If it really is a Yellowbelly/Pastel/Hidden Gene Woma and there really isn't a hidden gene, then it's a 3 gene animal, not 4 but I just saw one on NERD's site that said it was a 4 gene animal. I've been trying to get clarification on this for some time. I know this isn't an Inferno thread & not trying to hijack the thread but I think it's related enough to bring up also. Obviously with the Hidden Gene Woma selling for $3,500 vs. $300 or less for a regular Woma, I'm curious to see combos with each to see how different they are. I've held off on a Woma purchase primarily for this reason. I want to see combos using both lines and visually see what the differences are.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

I think there is a Lesser/Regular Woma and the Soul Sucker is the Lesser/Hidden Gene Woma. They look very similar. If that's the case, then I'm wondering if the Yellowbelly/Pastel/Regular Woma looks similar to the Inferno. I've posed that question before but no response so I don't know if anybody knows or not. Also, there is no "hidden gene" from what I've heard. It's just a different line. Yet, I've seen the Inferno advertised as a 4 gene animal so unsure if there is another morph in there or not. If it really is a Yellowbelly/Pastel/Hidden Gene Woma and there really isn't a hidden gene, then it's a 3 gene animal, not 4 but I just saw one on NERD's site that said it was a 4 gene animal. I've been trying to get clarification on this for some time. I know this isn't an Inferno thread & not trying to hijack the thread but I think it's related enough to bring up also. Obviously with the Hidden Gene Woma selling for $3,500 vs. $300 or less for a regular Woma, I'm curious to see combos with each to see how different they are. I've held off on a Woma purchase primarily for this reason. I want to see combos using both lines and visually see what the differences are.

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Inferno= Hidden gene woma, pastel, yellow belly, granite... Matt @ ghireptiles has also produced these gems. Last time I checked hidden gene woma's were 7500 not 3500. That was last season, but since codoms do drop fast who knows lol. Hes always on here (I think his SN is thecleaner, but im not to sure)... If you ask him more about it im sure he'd tell you.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

Yet, I've seen the Inferno advertised as a 4 gene animal so unsure if there is another morph in there or not. If it really is a Yellowbelly/Pastel/Hidden Gene Woma and there really isn't a hidden gene, then it's a 3 gene animal, not 4 but I just saw one on NERD's site that said it was a 4 gene animal. I've been trying to get clarification on this for some time.

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The Inferno is a Hidden Gene Woma/Yellow Belly/Pastel/Granite for the four genes. Here is a current picture of the Hidden Gene Woma Yellow Belly that I purchased from Matt Lerer earlier this year. She is currently at 588 grams in weight and developing quite nicely I think.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...9_1_800_10.jpg

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Originally Posted by adogunnaike

Inferno= Hidden gene woma, pastel, yellow belly, granite... Matt @ ghireptiles has also produced these gems. Last time I checked hidden gene woma's were 7500 not 3500. That was last season, but since codoms do drop fast who knows lol. Hes always on here (I think his SN is thecleaner, but im not to sure)... If you ask him more about it im sure he'd tell you.

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I was a little slow on the Submit Reply Button. LOL

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Originally Posted by Albey

The Inferno is a Hidden Gene Woma/Yellow Belly/Pastel/Granite for the four genes. Here is a current picture of the Hidden Gene Woma Yellow Belly that I purchased from Matt Lerer earlier this year. She is currently at 588 grams in weight and developing quite nicely I think.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...9_1_800_10.jpg

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She's HOT Albey!

Okay, didn't know the granite was an ingredient. The Hidden Gene Woma is listed on NERD's site right now for $3,500. I also got that directly from an e-mail to Kevin earlier this year. So, has anybody developed the combo with a regular Woma and if so, what did it look like? I think I have seen someone with a Lesser/Regular Woma (might have been Northern Regius but not 100% sure) and it looked pretty close to the Soul Sucker from what I remember.

By the way, that Hidden Gene Woma/Yellow Belly is HOT!!!

I'm not really sure when the granite started getting listed as part of the inferno either, as that's not what Kevin said on Reptile Radio or to me, nor is it listed in the German edition of The Complete Ball Python where he first shared the ingredients.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I'm not really sure when the granite started getting listed as part of the inferno either, as that's not what Kevin said on Reptile Radio or to me, nor is it listed in the German edition of The Complete Ball Python where he first shared the ingredients.

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I don't understand why there is so much secrecy with these combos. It would seem that revealing the ingredients would increase the sale of them. Keeping the genetics secret just doesn't seem to make sense unless they are only the beginning of another combo.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

I don't understand why there is so much secrecy with these combos. It would seem that revealing the ingredients would increase the sale of them. Keeping the genetics secret just doesn't seem to make sense unless they are only the beginning of another combo.

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Sometimes they just don't know. If you breed two snakes together with 8 different mutations between the two of them, and you hatch out a crazy looking animal, sometimes it is hard to know what it carries. I mean, at what point do you start differentiating between whether or nor a lesser super pastel woma spider enchi desert might carry a yellowbelly gene as well? Really the only way to find out for sure is to breed that animal to a bunch of normals and see what pops out.

In addition, secrecy has been part of the reptile hobby forever. I agree, I don't like it and I think it's stupid. However, some people get a kick out of making themselves seem, for lack of a better word, "reptile-1337", by keeping projects a secret. I suppose they also might have monetary reasons to do so, which I also dislike.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I'm not really sure when the granite started getting listed as part of the inferno either, as that's not what Kevin said on Reptile Radio or to me, nor is it listed in the German edition of The Complete Ball Python where he first shared the ingredients.

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Matt is the one that told me. He said that the ones with just the three genes (Hidden Gene Woma/Pastel/Yellow Belly) look different but are still plenty cool looking. I am going to have to settle for one of those since I don’t have Kevin’s Granite gene. Here is a quote from Matt in a post describing how he produced the Inferno.

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Originally Posted by Bumblebee Tuna

The quad combo is hidden gene woma/Kevin's line of crazy granite/pastel/yellow belly. I'll post up pics of the rest when they all shed. There are some other cool combos in the clutch! Thanks for the comments!!

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It may be one of those things where Kevin didn’t know until later just what all of the ingredients were. Plus with Matt being his best friend he may have told him a little more than the anyone else.

I also find project secrets to be SILLY :rolleye2: in almost every case. It is more times than not both bad for the project and business.

Still would love to see a picture of a Yellow Belly/Pastel/Regular Woma if there is anybody out there that has one as well as a Lesser/Regular Woma

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

I think there is a Lesser/Regular Woma and the Soul Sucker is the Lesser/Hidden Gene Woma.

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According to NERD, the Soul Sucker and the Lesser-Hidden-Gene-Woma are different. They are listed separately and have different descriptions. Normal Lesser-Womas don't look anything like NERD's Lesser Woma.

Hidden-gene Woma Lesser: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

Soul-Sucker (Hidden-gene Woma + Lesser + Unknown): http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ul-sucker.html

Normal Woma Lesser: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=142040

I'm just going off their website, so maybe they've announced something different that isn't on their website that I haven't heard yet....