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Decisions Decisions!!!!

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  • 10-23-2009, 07:19 PM
    hoax
    Decisions Decisions!!!!
    I have decided to throw my hat in the breeding ring this season.

    I have been thinking about what I wanted to do, here is what I got;

    Pastel 50% het. albino 1.0

    100% het. albino 1.0

    Pastel 0.1

    100% het albino 0.1

    So I will throw up a poll and see what we get!

    Mike
  • 10-23-2009, 07:24 PM
    hoax
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Its multiple choice.

    Don't forget long term plans.

    If breeding goes well for me this season I will try again next year.

    Thanks for any input

    Mike
  • 10-23-2009, 07:39 PM
    dr del
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Hi,

    I gotta say I'd go for;

    Pastel 50% het. Albino 1.0 x Pastel 0.1

    Pastel 50% het. Albino 1.0 x 100% het albino 0.1

    Mainly to shoot for supers and possibly prove him out.

    I'd give this guy the year off.

    100% het. albino 1.0


    dr del
  • 10-23-2009, 07:47 PM
    hoax
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    That is exactly what I was thinking!

    Mike
  • 10-23-2009, 07:56 PM
    dr del
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Hi,

    There is one thing to consider though.

    Statistically it would be easier to prove/ disprove him him with an albino female and pastel albinos aren't exactly massively different from normal albinos.

    I know the heads are lighter but I know I couldn't pick them out with 100% reliability. :oops:


    dr del
  • 10-23-2009, 08:07 PM
    hoax
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    I was not going to breed this year because of the cost. But I was looking at a cooler incubator and thought of a cheap alternative, well same concept. Just use a cooler with the T-stat I have and a zoo-medics heat pad.

    l````Tl
    l------l
    l------l
    lOOOOl
    lxxxxx l

    l = sides of cooler
    O = water bottles
    x = heat pad
    T = T-stat
  • 10-23-2009, 08:37 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    I would do try to make some supers and prove out the Pastel Poss Het Albino so

    Pastel Poss Het Albino X Pastel

    Pastel Poss Het Albino X Het Albino
  • 10-23-2009, 08:44 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    I would do try to make some supers and prove out the Pastel Poss Het Albino so

    Pastel Poss Het Albino X Pastel

    Pastel Poss Het Albino X Het Albino

    ^^^ that looks good id go with that one and send the 1.0 100% het albino to me im missing one for my project this year
  • 10-23-2009, 08:56 PM
    lillyorchid
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Pastel50%HetAlbinoX100%HetAlbino
  • 10-23-2009, 09:15 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    try to prove out that 50%er :D

    pastel albinos are pretty, and you can work on some super pastel het albinos hopefully.

    Of course it's a risk, but what's the point of having a 50%er without trying to prove it out?
  • 10-24-2009, 08:52 AM
    JayCee
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Concur. Pastel poss Het Albino X Pastel & X Het Albino.


    At best you produce a Pastel Albino or Albino and prove the guy out.

    At worst you produce some Pastel 50% Het Albinos.


    If you go Het X Het, you still only have a 25% chance per egg of producing an Albino, so you still might end up with a clutch of normal looking offspring which would be 66% Het.
  • 10-24-2009, 09:11 AM
    BChambers
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    I have to strongly disagree here. Since you only have two females, why even breed that 50% het male?? To "prove him out"? Why? Your 100% male can easily handle both females, thus almost assuring you of albino babies, plus pastel pos. het albino babies as well. I'd personally sell that 50% male, and if I wanted another male choose one from the cool babies you hatch from this coming season's hatchlings.

    If you breed him and that 50% male does NOT prove out, then you end up with a bunch of much less valuable babies-none of which will be certain hets!
  • 10-24-2009, 07:09 PM
    hoax
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BChambers View Post
    I have to strongly disagree here. Since you only have two females, why even breed that 50% het male?? To "prove him out"? Why? Your 100% male can easily handle both females, thus almost assuring you of albino babies, plus pastel pos. het albino babies as well. I'd personally sell that 50% male, and if I wanted another male choose one from the cool babies you hatch from this coming season's hatchlings.

    If you breed him and that 50% male does NOT prove out, then you end up with a bunch of much less valuable babies-none of which will be certain hets!

    I will not be keeping any of the offspring unless I get a super or get any pastel albinos. I also thought about if he does not prove out then I would sell them for $50 or give them to folks who need them and will pay shipping. I am not in this for money just the joy of making some quality snakes.

    I got the 100% boy as a gift he wasn't even in my breeding plans at first. So When I found out my pastel was 50%poss I knew I had to prove him out on the first (chance I get)

    I have already put Jack (50%poss het) with Sally (pastel fem) we have what looks like some freak nasty snake procreation so I will get up pics tonight!

    I am stoked! Ill keep you folks up to date.

    Mike
  • 10-24-2009, 07:16 PM
    BChambers
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Ok I read your original post wrong-I was thinking the 50% pos was a normal, not a pastel:rolleye2:

    Yes-in that case you do need to prove him out. I hate to say it but i might mate him to the 100% het female as well. It's a gamble, but what the heck:gj:
  • 10-24-2009, 11:00 PM
    hoax
    Re: Decisions Decisions!!!!
    Here are some bad pictures taken with my phone.

    I am sorry my D60 wasn't handy.

    http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo158/Hoax/031-1.jpg

    http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo158/Hoax/032-1.jpg

    I don't think they have locked up yet but it is looking good.

    I will keep updating http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...06#post1190006 <HERE

    Mike
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