Coloring/naming question

I picked up a morph the other day and was wondering if anyone knew whether or not it was common, what the official name is, etc...
He is red tail in pattern, with speckling all over including the underside, with the shimmer from a rainbow. and, his tail isn't red, it's black. so if i had to name it myself, i would say a "black-tail, rainbow." anyone heard of it? unfortunately I don't have any good pictures right now, because my camera is broken.

picture :)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/DSCF0002.jpg

He/She looks like a anery boa

sorry for being a noob , but...anery?

Look it up on google :P

Anerythristic
Colour mutation characterized by a lack of yellow and red pigment.

Type ones seem to be whiter, while type 2s seem to be mostly a darker grey.

To the best of my knowledge that is the only way you can get a non-red tailed boa (although I've no knowledge on the subject :P)

haha, i gotcha. and you can't really see the shimmer, but if you look close at his tail in person, you can see it better. is it even possible to breed a rainbow and a red tail?

Epicrates cenchria - Rainbow Boa
Boa constrictor constrictor - Red Tailed Boa

They are different genera, let alone species. It would be highly difficult to breed the two together and any offspring would be hybrids.

And since they're hybrids then you'd have to worry about recharging them every couple hundred miles ;)

:) at the hybrid joke. well he definitely does shimmer in the right light...so is there any other way to get that characteristic other than with a rainbow?

I think you are a bit confused...

The 'rainbow' on your snake you are seeing is called iridescence. Look it up and I think you'll understand it a bit more.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_20013762/

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

Epicrates cenchria - Rainbow Boa
Boa constrictor constrictor - Red Tailed Boa

They are different genera, let alone species. It would be highly difficult to breed the two together and any offspring would be hybrids.

And since they're hybrids then you'd have to worry about recharging them every couple hundred miles ;)

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There have been many different pythonidae cross-genus hybrids. The ball x woma python and ball x carpet python, and I believe there have been some morelia x liasis breedings but I don't know what species.

I just thought it's an interesting counterpoint, some cross-genus hybrids are possible, especially in the world of snakes.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

There have been many different pythonidae cross-genus hybrids. The ball x woma python and ball x carpet python, and I believe there have been some morelia x liasis breedings but I don't know what species.

I just thought it's an interesting counterpoint, some cross-genus hybrids are possible, especially in the world of snakes.

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I did mention hybrids for a reason :P Got to love those simple genetics. We force it on larger animals (forming hybrids) and microscopic organisms can lead to horizontal gene transfer as well. It's always to handy to see evolution at work. or at least in the extremely early stages as we see with hybrids.

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Originally Posted by Sarin

I think you are a bit confused...

The 'rainbow' on your snake you are seeing is called iridescence. Look it up and I think you'll understand it a bit more.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_20013762/

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thank you very much. that is exactly what i was looking for. so, where does that iridescence come from then?

same place it does on the street I would assume. Oil.

My vote is on Anery BCI too. A slight bit of iridescence is common in them.

http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/boaco...erator&UID=104

anyone think it could be this? the iridescence goes all the way up to the head just like on Jack (his name btw). eitherway, i think he's definitely anery, type 2, possibly the nicaraguan?

Iridescence has NOTHING to do with the kind of snake it is. A normal ball python shimmers post shed the same way any other snake will, this wears away over time and ultimately is non-existent while they are in shed. Do not look at that for the kind of snake.

In my opinion yours does not look nearly as dark overall to be a type 2.

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Iridescence has NOTHING to do with the kind of snake it is. A normal ball python shimmers post shed the same way any other snake will, this wears away over time and ultimately is non-existent while they are in shed. Do not look at that for the kind of snake.

In my opinion yours does not look nearly as dark overall to be a type 2.

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see i thought he looked to dark to be a type 1...

He is pretty dark but I'd say he's more in line with the type ones I've been seeing than the type 2s, but he is kind of a mid range between them :/ where did you get him, again?

Type 2 anerys are of the Central American variety... they are usually Nicaraguans.

Type 1 anerys are the more common Columbian boa, which is what you have. Look at those eyes with their bluish tint... you've definitely got yourself an anery there :)


Both Nics and Columbians are BCI, but Nics are usually smaller and quite a bit darker. Just a different locale.

Not type 2, that's for sure. The dark part of the tail, where the red would be on a normal is typically darker than the rest of the body.

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He is pretty dark but I'd say he's more in line with the type ones I've been seeing than the type 2s, but he is kind of a mid range between them :/ where did you get him, again?

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i got him from the local pet shop here. they were selling him with his tank, stand, and all accessories for a customer that couldn't find a home for him and couldn't care for him any longer. as soon as i saw him i knew i had to have him and the price was excellent :D

I think Anery:)

Daniel