Fires, Pastels and Fireflies

I Have a question about fires. I have been reading about how Fires are supouse to clean the pastel gene up (make that browish color go away) so I have been looking at pictures of fires and fireflies, But to tell you the truth I dont see a difference between fires and a normal ball. The same with the pastels and the fireflies. The fireflies just look like pastels to me, still browned out. I dont see much improvement of the fireflies over the pastels.... Maybe I havent seen a good fire and firefly??

Maybe it's because I was looking mainly in kingsnake and random websites. Can anyone help out with some pictures and "hands on" information on this?

In my collection so far I have:

- 0.1 normal, my first bp that started this all for me :D
- 1.0 pastel
- 1.0 VPI Axanthic
- 0.1 Spider (Coming Soon!)

Maybe you could see where I'm going with this... :P

I though adding a fire to this would be a good idea, but after seeing some pictures of fires and fireflies, I was dissapointed. That is why I need some help here.

Thanks alot again!

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_7333.jpg



They a killer animals you gotta see them in person to understand.

Good example of a fire! Some are kind of subtle otheres such as Emilios are very obvious.AS for Fireflys I've never seen an ugly one.If you can get pastels that look like fireflys let me know where because that would be an A+ Grade Pastel.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

They a killer animals you gotta see them in person to understand.

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chu dat.

in person they're WAY better. super bright, VERY yellow! nothing like regular pastels at ALL

Here is a pic of one before it really started to color up. A good quality fire could not be mistaken as a normal.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_1679.jpg

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Originally Posted by RhacHead

Good example of a fire! Some are kind of subtle otheres such as Emilios are very obvious.AS for Fireflys I've never seen an ugly one.If you can get pastels that look like fireflys let me know where because that would be an A+ Grade Pastel.

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You read it wrong. It's more like fireflies that look like pastels and fires that look like normals. Go to kingsnake and look up fires and fireflies and you will see what I meant.

The examples posted here are MUCH better! :gj:

Heres some pictures of some Fires and some pictures of some FireFlies we produced this year.
Fire
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...Site/Fire1.jpg
Another Fire
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...Site/Fire3.jpg
Two FireFlies with a Pastel Het Ghost
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/DSC_1017.jpg
FireFlies alone.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/DSC_1016.jpg
Hope this helps.

Those look realy nice thanks, you should post an update pic when some months go by. I wonder what they'll look like when 6months-1year has gone by... :)

Btw, how much would a firefly cost average?

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Originally Posted by Danounet

Those look realy nice thanks, you should post an update pic when some months go by. I wonder what they'll look like when 6months-1year has gone by... :)

Btw, how much would a firefly cost average?

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We definently will!:gj:
They are right around $1,500.

FIRE and FIREFLY pictures don't do them justice !

I saw a firefly at the CRBE from O.C.D. and I couldn't believe how Yellow it was glowing. I saw multiple pictures of that particular animal before and it was totally not the same animal.

I am not a fan of Pastel, but the Firefly is something !

A friend of mine just picked up a firefly from John (www.jdconstriction.com). I went to see it last week and it's hot! I will agree that it is quite similar to a super pastel, but it's MUCH lighter and has a lot of blushing compared to a pastel.

Here's a picture from John's (jpman78) website of the one Jon (nevohraalnavnoj) picked up
http://jdconstriction.com/images/09firefly11m02.jpg

they defiantly dont look like pastels or normals... just make sure when you purchase one that you research and find a really nice one!

Do all fires have that faded spot on their head? Thanks :gj:

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Do all fires have that faded spot on their head? Thanks :gj:

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That is a good sign that its a fire.Alot of fires have it,but not all.

Well I realy want a firefly now but with that price that, I guess it's gonna be a while... :(

I also searched around for fires seems they are $400-500 average price. Is that correct? I better start saving.

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Originally Posted by Danounet

Well I realy want a firefly now but with that price that, I guess it's gonna be a while... :(

I also searched around for fires seems they are $400-500 average price. Is that correct? I better start saving.

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Males are around $350-$400 and females are around $400-$500.

I just got back form the show, saw a few fireflys for 1000-1200.

and I can agree with you on the fire thing, as babies its hard to tell if you got nothing to compare them to, tho high quality ones will catch your eye.

but fireflys, there no mistaking them, they were catching my eye from 20 feet away at the show. next year i will most likly own one. spent my money on a jag carpet right b4 the show, tho im not regretting it. but if i didn't buy her, i would of most likly got a firefly. once you see your first one in person, you'll know why.

That firefly on the right is my dream animal. Bright yellow, no blushing, dense blacks. Absolute perfection....

Our Citrus and Hypo Citrus are doing well, thanks again.

To the OP--we just got back from Tinley and Fireflies are much brigther than most of the pastels on the market.

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Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/DSC_1016.jpg
Hope this helps.

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That firefly on the right is my dream animal. Bright yellow, no blushing, dense blacks. Absolute perfection....

Our Citrus and Hypo Citrus are doing well, thanks again.

To the OP--we just got back from Tinley and Fireflies are much brigther than most of the pastels on the market.

I love FireFlys!!
Here's my girl, River Tam, inbound next month:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...Attachment.jpg