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BP giant gene?

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  • 10-05-2009, 01:11 AM
    Lupe
    BP giant gene?
    I remember reading about a line of 'giant' BP's and have been looking for some infor but am not having much luck xP does anyone have a link to some info of them?
  • 10-05-2009, 01:36 AM
    omnibus2
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Doubt there is a giant gene that people know of. Of course, genetics do affect size one way or another.
  • 10-05-2009, 09:22 AM
    justind
    Re: BP giant gene?
    They are Sub Saharan locality ball pythons. I don't know much about them though.
  • 10-05-2009, 09:29 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: BP giant gene?
    OH OH OH ... I want to say they are recessive. I think NERD has some. :D
  • 10-05-2009, 10:04 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: BP giant gene?
  • 10-05-2009, 05:12 PM
    Lupe
    Re: BP giant gene?
    thanks :D
  • 10-05-2009, 05:48 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justind View Post
    They are Sub Saharan locality ball pythons. I don't know much about them though.

    I've been told that area is protected from collection, the tribes there worship them. They are bigger than Ghana locales.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    OH OH OH ... I want to say they are recessive. I think NERD has some. :D

    Nope, not recessive & a few folks got them. They do slip into the trade. I've been asked if my biggest female here is one. She's CH 5'5" & over 7lbs now!!! She lays 11-13 egg clutches AND her offspring thrive & grow big too! I love this snake:
    http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p6...m75k9SI5IC6ouE
    Her head fills the palm of my hand.
    '06 Pic of her in Iris 900 rack.
    http://vtw0da.bay.livefilestore.com/...nake%20009.jpg
  • 10-05-2009, 06:10 PM
    monk90222
    Re: BP giant gene?
    I have one also, her head is 2-3x bigger than any other bp I have.
  • 10-05-2009, 06:21 PM
    waltah!
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222 View Post
    I have one also, her head is 2-3x bigger than any other bp I have.

    Pics man, pics!
  • 10-05-2009, 06:31 PM
    monk90222
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Pics man, pics!

    This was her first year laying for me (10 eggs) and I don't want to photograph her until she is nice and plump again...hehe....
  • 10-05-2009, 06:38 PM
    waltah!
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222 View Post
    This was her first year laying for me (10 eggs) and I don't want to photograph her until she is nice and plump again...hehe....

    sure Chahlie, sure. We don't believe anything around here til we see pics!:P
    Fatten that girl up so we can see her:)
  • 10-05-2009, 06:52 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: BP giant gene?
    someone was selling some a few months ago on here, so their out there
  • 10-05-2009, 07:42 PM
    mrs.twistedtails
    Re: BP giant gene?
    I have a male normal i dont know how old he is but hes huge.... Hes the biggest I own. He was a rescue so I dont know much about him but hes big. He weighs2687g is that big? Is he "GIANT GENE"?
  • 10-06-2009, 01:22 AM
    Montie Python
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Ok so my snake craze has begun, I was thinking of purchasing a Mojave next year, for my first morph, but if you guys are telling me there is a Giant gene, this changes everything...

    How much would they run for?

    And how come I haven't heard about these guys till now?

    and wow imagine if they can cross the giant gene with the morphs...
  • 10-06-2009, 01:53 AM
    omnibus2
    Re: BP giant gene?
    How do people know it is genetic?
  • 10-06-2009, 01:57 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omnibus2 View Post
    How do people know it is genetic?

    everything is genetic.

    Big people have children that grow big.

    Big snakes have snake babies that grow big.

    The difference is that such things are controlled by more than a single gene. In breeding reptile "morphs", we deal with pretty much exclusively single-gene visual mutations that affect color and pattern.
  • 10-06-2009, 02:01 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Where do I get one?
  • 10-06-2009, 02:03 AM
    omnibus2
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    everything is genetic.

    Big people have children that grow big.

    Big snakes have snake babies that grow big.

    The difference is that such things are controlled by more than a single gene. In breeding reptile "morphs", we deal with pretty much exclusively single-gene visual mutations that affect color and pattern.

    Ah, let me clarify. I worded it incorrectly.

    Do we know the actual lineage for the giant gene? After all, ball pythons could randomly grow to large sizes. A lot of things affect size, like feeding and general health.
  • 10-06-2009, 02:05 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pavlovk1025 View Post
    Where do I get one?

    import one from africa, or be really lucky when someone wants to part with one.

    Keep in mind that if you breed a big locality BP with a normal sized bp, you might get bigger than average children, but statistically you won't reproduce more "giants".

    Imagine the superdwarf x regular sized retic crosses. They aren't as big as regulars, but they are bigger than the superdwarves.
  • 10-06-2009, 04:08 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: BP giant gene?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Keep in mind that if you breed a big locality BP with a normal sized bp, you might get bigger than average children, but statistically you won't reproduce more "giants".

    I dont care about any of that. Did you see the pic that Deborah posted? I just want a monstrous BP in my collection.
  • 10-06-2009, 04:21 AM
    irishanaconda
    Re: BP giant gene?
    here is kind of a bad vid but u get the idea
    YouTube - large ball python
    she weight yesterday after 2 med rats was 4300 grams.
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