These prices Just keep droping

I want Bee's but cant afford the 1200 so i went out and bought a spider 400, and got a hundred of my lemon so pick her up for 200. Browsing kings snake today and now im seeing bees for 575 shipped are you kidding me. By the time i breed my own i could of just picked up a bee. There is sense of enjoyment when you produce a somewhat high priced morph. With these prices dropping so fast It takes the fun out of it. I dont know its frustrating

Don't be so focused on the money aspect of it, and maybe you'll enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Henry

There is sense of enjoyment when you produce a somewhat high priced morph. With these prices dropping so fast It takes the fun out of it. I don't know its frustrating

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You'll save your self allot of heartache when you come to grips with the fact that a 575.00 is still a Bee if you truly enjoy bee then they could be 2.75 each and it wouldn't matter.. I love spiders. I try to produce killer looking spiders, When it comes to the prices they really don't bother me that much cause I enjoy pulling those animals out and looking at them the same way I did when there were 1100.00.

Hope that helps put your mind at ease. I you enjoy the morph more than the price tag then your good to go.

Im not focused on money. Just you plan on a morph that is expensive wich will take close to 3 years to produce. When i could of just waited and got the same morph 6 months later.

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Originally Posted by Henry

Im not focused on money. Just you plan on a morph that is expensive wich will take close to 3 years to produce. When i could of just waited and got the same morph 6 months later.

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Granted but you will only have one.. Look at it like this now.. you can make as many bees as you want now.. so would you rather have one bee or bees every year?

Ya your right. I love my spider and my lemon every day im taking them out and looking at them. It just gets my frustrated people selling so cheap. Bee's are one of my favorite morphs. Maybe it gets me mad because its getting into that price range that teases me to buy one now instead of waiting.

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There is sense of enjoyment when you produce a somewhat high priced morph. With these prices dropping so fast It takes the fun out of it.

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If the prices dropping takes the fun out of producing beautiful baby Ball Pythons for you, and you lost your sense of enjoyment based on the "market value" of the offspring, it is time to stop breeding your animals and find a new hobby.

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Originally Posted by rjk890

If the prices dropping takes the fun out of producing beautiful baby Ball Pythons for you, and you lost your sense of enjoyment based on the "market value" of the offspring, it is time to stop breeding your animals and find a new hobby.

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Ok maybe I didn't word it right when i said takes the fun out of it. Before people start ripping me telling me to get out of the hobby. I enjoy my snake's very much. Just saying their is a added excitement i think in producing a high priced morph. I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't get excited if you produced a new morph that would sell for 7 to 8 grand. Also for me when I see bee's going for 1200 a year ago and now 575 shipped, I look at as man i could of sold 1 bee and got money to buy more morph's im not looking at it as man I cant bank money now. I can get a lot morphs for 1200 then 575 if you get what im saying I dont know if that clears it up

I totally get what your saying..But your going to have to make up your mind whether you can deal with that.. look at Pieds I paid the average going price for a 2008 pied male.. Now I see tables at shows with them for 800.00. It blows me away but that's the nature of the beast. Try not to think of it as a drop in price but a gain in market base. all those people like you that have wanted a bee can now afford one.. Well in a few years when your proucing bees and the price has settled down all those people that have waited and dreamed will now drop that 400.00 with you. Now no its not 1200.00 but hey your still doing what you wanted right. Producing Bee's and selling snakes.. the price tag is the only thing that changed

I purchased many of the animals that are in my collection in order to produce Combos and Supers (for myself) that I wanted, but were outside of my price range.

Many of those animals that I was longing for, are "cheaper," or to be PC, "more affordable" now and can be purchased for less money then I spent on the base morphs in order to produce them.

It does not matter to me because when I hatch out my very own BEL, Pastel Pied, Axanthic Bee, Hypo Black Pastel, Albino Genetic Stripe,......... they will be worth just as much to me as they were when I could only dream about purchasing them, nomatter what the market value of them is.

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Originally Posted by Henry

Ya your right. I love my spider and my lemon every day im taking them out and looking at them. It just gets my frustrated people selling so cheap. Bee's are one of my favorite morphs. Maybe it gets me mad because its getting into that price range that teases me to buy one now instead of waiting.

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When I paid 3k for my spider & pastel (special pair pricing mind you) I got a great deal!!! And bees were going for 10K. I'm glad they are in a more affordable price range now, more folks will be able to have their dream morph.

I'm doing a Killer Axanthic bee project now, because they are the coolest looking Spider cross to me. My Spider & Pastel not only look great, they will make some fantastic combos down the road. They are so cool!

Prices fall over time. If you are just wanting the snake, you can time your buying. If you breed, it matters less. If you love the snakes it hardly matters at all. ;)

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Originally Posted by NorthernRegius

I'm glad they are in a more affordable price range now, more folks will be able to have their dream morph.

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Ditto!! Falling prices just means more people will be able to afford them. Which means that you vastly expand your customer base.

The key is looking long term. I paid $1200 for my het pieds. Finally got a pied this year. I'm keeping him back, and will hold back a female if I get one next year. But from then on, I'll be selling them all. So even when pieds are selling for $400 in a few years, I'll be producing several of them and will easily make my money back on my initial investment.

So for the OP, yes you could have bought one, but now you'll have the satisfaction of producing your own (which can't be beat!!). Then just think long term, and you can still make back your original investment but will have had all the excitement along the way!

Ya good points thanks for easing the mine. Its still going to be hard not to buy a bee before I can produce one.

I see what Your saying, and yep I went thou this afew years ago when prices were way up there I think I paid 3800 for a female spider..lol. If it bugs You that Bad sale that spider or see If You can do a Trade and cash for a really Nice Bee, anyone can make these Morphs, its not hard. You just have to jump out there and get ahead abit.. Try and make it to Tinley coming up soon and see what You can find as far as Bees and pick the BEST looking ONE.

The way I look at it is Everything I produce is above what I see and that why my stuff is selling and People want them. People that know Me , know I only pick the best of the best. Just be happy with what Your doing and don't worry about the price droping its going to happen. I still haven't sold any of my 09 babys. I like takeing care of them for awhile and then seeing what ones I can let go of, always try and keep the best looking female Morphs and sell what males You don't need or do a trade with someone. I don't care if the next guy sales his bees for 500 im not selling any of mine that cheep ,because I know mine are better and they are well worth it.. I seen a SpinnerBlast 4sale cheep Yet it was the ugliest one I have ever seen in my life.. I don't like them if they have any Grey on them . They will grow up to be really dirty looking, just try and go for the Best and in the end it will pay off. I'll post some pictures of my stuff when I get some more time:)

Yes I like what everyone wrote also, If You love doing this Nothing will stop You or detour You from your hobby. A Hobby that has returns what more can We ask For.. I could go on But I have to clean some cages. If You want to ask Me something just message Me and I'll try and help You out:confused:

Isn't this just simple supply and demand?????

Love what you do and the $$ wont matter as much. I have my bee and I have a normal. (soon to be more when my hubby lets me drop some cash again) :D (after the bee it might be a while) When they are old enough I will breed..for fun...for the experience...and maybe even to pay for my habit and to teach my children. To me...the money is not the big deal, they will be worth what they are worth. The experience however is invaluable!!!

I bought my female spider for the price of last year’s bee, am I mad about it? Not one bit with that spider in 2 breeding seasons I have produced a total of 2 Spiders, 1 Bee and 2 Spinners. Now I have a proven breeder spider, 2 of my favorite combos and many more to come in the future.

I paid $1300 for a pair of het pied, if I had waited I could have bought a pied this year for that same price, instead I produced 4 of them and 2 possible het pied females. Now I have a proven pair of het pieds, some pieds, some possible hets and I had the pleasure to produce my very own pied (1 of my favorite morph) – Can’t complain about that either.

Bottom line price will drop, yes you might be able to buy the combo you want for the price of the pair you buy to make it but you need to realize that you will have a breeding pair that will breed for years to come and that hatching your own morphs and combos is priceless.

and the most coolest of all is watching those eggs hatch and seeing whatcha got!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banana:

for those of you that don't peek!!