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  • 09-29-2009, 03:20 PM
    MsPrada
    Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    "They are becoming more and more scarce in the wild, and the fewer Ball Pythons that have to be imported from the wild the better."

    I was looking up some info on breeding and breeding tips and came across this on the kingsnake website. Has anyone heard about this? I didn't know they were becoming scarce in the wild.
  • 09-29-2009, 03:30 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Never heard anything of it. I hope it's not true, that would be sad.
  • 09-29-2009, 03:30 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elise.m View Post
    Never heard anything of it. I hope it's not true, that would be sad.


    I was thinking that too. :(
  • 09-29-2009, 03:36 PM
    Nate
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Where'd you find that?
  • 09-29-2009, 03:36 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    As far as I know, ball pythons are still thriving in the wild.
    Not to mention, if all else fails, a rehabilitation project would not be hard because they are rather easy to breed.
  • 09-29-2009, 03:38 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/

    Its under the breeding section.
  • 09-29-2009, 03:57 PM
    Nate
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    It sounds to me like an assumption....just like my assumption that ball pythons in Africa are doing just fine.

    I really dunno...Who really knows? :confuzd:
  • 09-29-2009, 03:59 PM
    nixer
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide/

    Its under the breeding section.

    thats what ppl say that dont want you to get CH or WC animals.
    and both ch and wc animals need special care
  • 09-29-2009, 03:59 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    It sounds to me like an assumption....just like my assumption that ball pythons in Africa are doing just fine.

    I really dunno...Who really knows? :confuzd:

    Based on the amount being imported and how 'easy' they are to find and take.. I'm guessing there's lots out there.

    But we don't know, really. :[
  • 09-29-2009, 04:03 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    They are a CITES regulated animal and as such are strictly regulated. They're in no danger of becoming scarce any time soon. What doesn't get imported here for the pet trade, gets exported into Asia for food.
  • 09-29-2009, 04:21 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    I went and looked and they have quotas and everything. But I thought that CITES dealt with mainly endangered species and those that were close to being endangered.
  • 09-29-2009, 06:06 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    I went and looked and they have quotas and everything. But I thought that CITES dealt with mainly endangered species and those that were close to being endangered.

    Not necessarily, While the acronym stands for Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species. The convention was put in place to assure that the international trade in these animals does NOT threaten their survival. That's why there are quotas on how many animals can be harvested. If there were an unlimited number of animals that could be harvested from the wild, they may very well become endangered. Setting quotas makes this less likely to happen.

    I believe that ALL pythons are considered at least CITES II animals and some species are considered CITES I animals. (I think CITES I animals ARE endangered, and CITES II animals are considered economically valuable enough that they COULD become endangered with unlimiting harvesting)
  • 09-29-2009, 06:08 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Ok, that clears that up. BP's are CITES II
  • 09-29-2009, 06:31 PM
    Danounet
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    I think trade as pets is only a small % compared to the amount being eaten in asia?? I dont know, Im just asuming :)
  • 09-29-2009, 06:40 PM
    nixer
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    Ok, that clears that up. BP's are CITES II

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danounet View Post
    I think trade as pets is only a small % compared to the amount being eaten in asia?? I dont know, Im just asuming :)

    here is the quotas by year
    http://www.cites.org/eng/resources/quotas/index.shtml
  • 09-29-2009, 07:00 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: Ball Pythons becoming scarce?
    If this works, this should go directly to ball python info.

    http://www.unep-wcmc.org/isdb/CITES/...22683&Country=
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