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  • 09-18-2009, 10:27 AM
    tsdsbd
    rarest/most expensive morph
    whats the rarest and the most expensive morph, and can somebody post a picture?
  • 09-18-2009, 10:34 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    You'll be hard pressed to find pics of some of that stuff cause there's only one or two in the world..

    Rarest I'd say Patternless

    Most expencive I'd say is Pete's Super pastel hypo Pied.
  • 09-18-2009, 10:36 AM
    N4S
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Any pics of these? ^
  • 09-18-2009, 10:38 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S View Post
    Any pics of these? ^

    Here is the patternless
    http://www.vpi.com/galleries/images/155

    As for the other there's no pics yet but I did see a quick Vid clip of it some where.. I'll see If I can find it
  • 09-18-2009, 10:42 AM
    tsdsbd
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    WOW that is AWESOME i wonder how much that wud set you back...
  • 09-18-2009, 10:50 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Oh something like that I wouldn't surprised to see a 50K + price tag on het's
  • 09-18-2009, 11:57 AM
    GuardianX
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Talking about price,what is the most expensive recessive basic morph? as far as I know it's the lavender albino..
  • 09-18-2009, 12:15 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    wasn't the banana clown really expensive? i thought that was the most expensive one.
  • 09-18-2009, 12:17 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    wasn't the banana clown really expensive? i thought that was the most expensive one.

    it the last one i seen sold went for alot less than a banana is on KS
  • 09-18-2009, 02:14 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    it the last one i seen sold went for alot less than a banana is on KS

    The Banana Clown was selling for $40,000 last I saw on Kingsnake. :O
  • 09-18-2009, 02:17 PM
    Toronto Python Gurus
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    There's a scaleless BP sellin for $85,000 somewhere saw it in another forum, snake looked weird, didn't even have heat pits
  • 09-18-2009, 02:20 PM
    Jyson
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Most expencive I'd say is Pete's Super pastel hypo Pied.

    Whoa, Pete produced a super pastel hypo pied? I thought he produced just a hypo pastel pied.
  • 09-18-2009, 02:22 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jyson View Post
    Whoa, Pete produced a super pastel hypo pied? I thought he produced just a hypo pastel pied.

    I could have sworn is was a super I saw.. Maybe it was just the Pastel hypo Pied..
  • 09-18-2009, 02:41 PM
    Envied Reptiles
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    I believe it was a pastel ghost pied. If I recall correctly its in an R.D.D youtube video.
  • 09-18-2009, 02:42 PM
    Envied Reptiles
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    *r.d.r.*
  • 09-18-2009, 02:45 PM
    tonkatoyman
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GuardianX View Post
    Talking about price,what is the most expensive recessive basic morph? as far as I know it's the lavender albino..

    If the patternless came from two normal animals chances are the patternless is a base recessive morph.
  • 09-18-2009, 02:56 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Oh something like that I wouldn't surprised to see a 50K + price tag on het's

    http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=720401

    and incase the ad is removed

    2009 VPI Paternless female. This is a strong healthy snake currently feeding on fresh or frozen thawed mice and rats. be one of three people to have this amazing morph!

    $5500. with a 100% het male.

    1.1 66% pos het VPI Paternless, sibs to female above, $1000.pr

    1.1 100% het Paternless $2500.pr

    Dave E

    ah if i had the extra cash i would jumped on it
  • 09-18-2009, 02:59 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Are paternless an champagnes the same thing? They seem to look almost exactly alike. I remember seeing champagnes for like 11k last year.
  • 09-18-2009, 03:01 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Are paternless an champagnes the same thing? They seem to look almost exactly alike. I remember seeing champagnes for like 11k last year.

    no they are not the same thing one is recessive and one is not also champagnes have markings
    i seen them for alot less last year too
  • 09-18-2009, 03:03 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    BLOW ME DOWN!!! 5500 for a Patternless and a HET!!! I'LL take
  • 09-18-2009, 03:05 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    BLOW ME DOWN!!! 5500 for a Patternless and a HET!!! I'LL take

    no doubt just wait 5minutes im sure some other deal will come along
  • 09-18-2009, 03:06 PM
    DrkstFaery69
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    what about the coral glow
    or the blue eyed luci? theyre both pretty pricey?
  • 09-18-2009, 03:07 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    no doubt just wait 5minutes im sure some other deal will come along

    O yea I'd love to see that in a LA :D
  • 09-18-2009, 03:13 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    O yea I'd love to see that in a LA :D

    i think this one would look nice on your site since i end up clicking it all the time http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=101534
  • 09-18-2009, 03:25 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    i think this one would look nice on your site since i end up clicking it all the time http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=101534

    Yea Keep on the Look out for an LA to make an appearance. I got all kinds of stuff on the back burner..

    Also the site is fixing to relaunch so that'll be a change of pace for ya.. :D
  • 09-18-2009, 03:42 PM
    panthercz
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tsdsbd View Post
    whats the rarest and the most expensive morph, and can somebody post a picture?

    Do you mean the same snake or what is the rarest and then what is the most expensive?

    To be honest there are a lot of "rare" morphs both base and combo. Every year there are more and more "new" combos produced, which would make them (for a little while) one and only morphs. Plus there are plenty of morphs that have yet to reproduce making them one and only morphs.

    As far as most expensive, that's tough to say because what you see advertised on KS are *NOT* the only snakes up for sale. There is plenty of behind the scenes action going on, so who knows what snake is being sold at what price. Also keep in mind asking price is not necessarily the selling price. Plus every year the prices change, Lessers use to be selling for $30,000, now you can pick one up for $400.
  • 09-18-2009, 03:50 PM
    nixer
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Yea Keep on the Look out for an LA to make an appearance. I got all kinds of stuff on the back burner..

    Also the site is fixing to relaunch so that'll be a change of pace for ya.. :D

    if all goes right ill be producing one soon i have a pair of 100% hets

    i check your site while im scrolling down since your signature seems to be so big and entirely hyperlinked lol
  • 09-18-2009, 06:08 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Haven't the patternless BPs been around for awhile now? I remember seeing one at NERD's table at a show back in '04 I think; I didn't even recognize it as a ball python and when I asked what it was, someone called it a "Mr. Hankey ball."

    I always thought they were honestly the ugliest morph out there. I genuinely figured that was why I hadn't seen any around for so long. But, to each his own ... An albino patternless might be kinda cool 'cos it'd probably look like a tiny albino green Burm ;)
  • 09-18-2009, 06:40 PM
    TheLaughingDemon
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrkstFaery69 View Post
    what about the coral glow
    or the blue eyed luci? theyre both pretty pricey?

    Blue eyed Lucys are around 1,000 to 2,000 most of the time. However, I saw a wee female baby Coral Glow on NERD's website that was for 20,000 dollars, which is ironic to me cause I've seen MUCH cheaper morphs that were 200 times more attractive than that baby coral glow....

    That reminds me. Just who the heck buys these 10,000+ morphs?
  • 09-18-2009, 06:53 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    The scaleless ball python is not for sale--you saw a scam attempt. Last I heard, attempts to breed the scaleless male have failed so far. I don't believe the owner has given up on him yet, but it might sadly turn out to be that he is not fertile.

    He does NOT LACK HEAT PITS. By the way. He only lacks the cup-shaped scales that normally cover the infra-red sensitive areas on his snout. The pits were never really pits to begin with, only the scales make them look that way. They're just nerve bundles in that area, and they work just fine without the scales.

    I understand he eats and moves normally. He's not the only scaleless snake in the world, just the only scaleless ball python. Scaleless corns are being bred--I believe BHB has some.

    If he doesn't breed, perhaps one day the mutation will occur again in ball pythons, though it might not. If he does breed...I think his offspring might be the top candidate for most expensive. lol
    Right now, I have to say I think he must be the most rare. The patternless gene is not represented by just one animal--VPI said 2 were hatched, and the het parents carry the gene as well, of course. But no other scaleless ball pythons exist, and if he never breeds...well, maybe no others ever will.
  • 09-18-2009, 11:51 PM
    Dave79
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Oh something like that I wouldn't surprised to see a 50K + price tag on het's

    $5500 on KS
  • 09-19-2009, 12:07 AM
    jkobylka
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    He's not the only scaleless snake in the world, just the only scaleless ball python.

    There have been at least 2 scaleless ball pythons, I actually think there was a third as well.

    Justin
  • 09-19-2009, 04:04 PM
    AlanDavidExotics
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    One of the most expensive base morphs available is the tri-stripe...25k each. I think only 1 of 2 were sold last year (i could be wrong though!!!).
  • 09-19-2009, 04:22 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Not really sure on the rarest BP, but I think there is only one Panda Piebald in existance, so far. I think it costs $18k.
    For the most expensive I'm not too sure on, but I've seen Banana Clowns at $40k. To me, the Banana Clowns aren't that attractive. I think the Ultramels are a lot more attractive than the Banana Clowns.
  • 09-19-2009, 05:30 PM
    rabernet
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    There have been at least 2 scaleless ball pythons, I actually think there was a third as well.

    Justin

    Eugene Bissette's is a female I believe, and I'm not sure who owned the male. So I also know of at least 2 scaleless ball pythons.
  • 09-19-2009, 05:44 PM
    RedDevil
    Re: rarest/most expensive morph
    There was a partially scaleless BP picked up at a reptile show in Louisiana for around $10. It was sitting in an unopened bag of import babies. The seller told someone they could dig through them all if they wanted, and even seen the snake before selling it. It's entire head is scaleless, and has some scaleless areas along the rest of it if I recall correctly.

    **EDIT**

    Nevermind, the one from the import bag only had a scaleless patch on its head. I do recall seeing one with a fully scaless head and partially scaleless body, though.

    http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...06897&key=2005
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