Official Week 2 BP.net Fantasy Thread...

Anyone as excited about week two as I am?? I feel like I chose all the right guys last week... my guys just aren't that good. :please:

My big decision - Cassel or Stafford? Cassel is playing against the perrenially awesome (insert sarcasm) pass defense of the Raiders.... Stafford will be looking for redemption against the Vikings. Love Stafford, but I'm thinking Cassel.... although, maybe he'll be too hurt to be effective?

Cassell isnt that great. Go with Stafford. I see him throwing for at least 2 tds.

Your QB's are weak. Anything in the free agent pool?

Flacco is a good pickup if there.

Jason Campbell is a great option for this weekend.

If you're not planning on picking anyone up, I would go with Cassell (if he plays, keep an eye on the pregame shows on Sunday). Stafford has a tough game against Minnesota. I would take N4S' recommendation and pick up Jason Campbell (he's available). He's got St. Louis at home and should have a good game.

I'm staring at another tough week against a tough opponent in MXRider42. I'm gonna have to do some creative reshuffling of my players if I'm to stand a chance against Trey.

Fantasy Football is soooo fun! It makes pretty much every NFL game interesting!

Neal its me and you this week. I've got Flacco as my back up.

I would go with Cassel against the Raiders. It is the Chiefs home opener under a new regime and Arrowhead will be LOUD for this game being a divisional game.

Also...I wouldn't start a rookie QB against the Minnesota Defense. The Williams wall and Jarred Allen are going to pick the lions offensive line apart.



***Can someone do me a favor a post how my team does on Sunday afternoon. I believe all my players are playing at noon and should be done at 3 central. I am going to be at the Chiefs game and dont remember my login info for espn (I have it saved on my computer). But I will be able to check this site. Thanks guys and good luck to everyone!

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Neal its me and you this week. I've got Flacco as my back up.

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Yep. I'm expected to win. Can't wait till Sunday though.

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

Anyone as excited about week two as I am?? I feel like I chose all the right guys last week... my guys just aren't that good. :please:

My big decision - Cassel or Stafford? Cassel is playing against the perrenially awesome (insert sarcasm) pass defense of the Raiders.... Stafford will be looking for redemption against the Vikings. Love Stafford, but I'm thinking Cassel.... although, maybe he'll be too hurt to be effective?

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Colin, i'll trade you Eli, if you offer me a decent trade.

neal, i'm straight, unless you want cassel... :)

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

neal, i'm straight, unless you want cassel... :)

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Never.. Cassel isn't good at all, to me not even decent, and Stafford needs a year or 2 to become adjusted.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Never.. Cassel isn't good at all, to me not even decent, and Stafford needs a year or 2 to become adjusted.

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What are you basing that off of?

Last year he threw for almost 4000 Yards. 21 TD's and 11 int's.

Are you going off of 2 preseason games?

BTW...Eli's fantasy points have dropped consistently over the past 3 years. They have a solid running game. Who would he throw to this year? They let go of their receivers.

IMO, Eli is not much better than Cassel. Cassel actually had more fantasy points than Eli last year. Cassel also plays in a much weaker division than Eli. For instance...Cassel is going up against the Raiders this week who have the worst record in the combined in the last 5 years (yes even worst than the lions) while the Giants are going up against Dallas.

And you wont even consider Matt Cassel decent?

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

neal, i'm straight, unless you want cassel... :)

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Colin, I will trade you Carson Palmer for Cassel if you want. Palmer has thrown for some big numbers in the past. He would be as much as a gamble post surgery as Cassel is on a new team.

Up to you.

kenny britt or roddy white..last wee britt did have 3 more points...but this week might be different.......i am unsure if i should start britt this week instead of white and have white as my ot guy. Any ideas?

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Originally Posted by azpythons

kenny britt or roddy white..last wee britt did have 3 more points...but this week might be different.......i am unsure if i should start britt this week instead of white and have white as my ot guy. Any ideas?

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Hmmmm....White vs Carolina or Britt vs Houstin. Both at home.


I would honestly go with White. Britt had a good week...but no defensive coordinators have tape on him. Before he was just a rookie playing his first game...no knowing what to expect.

White is also a #1 receiver for Atlanta...I don't know what # Britt is.

hes a number 2/3...i hope i dont end up kickin myself for leaving britt off the lineup again. But white is more of a safe bet at this point in the season...if britt has more points again, im thinkin white or marques colston gonna get benched.

p.s. go titans

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

What are you basing that off of?

Last year he threw for almost 4000 Yards. 21 TD's and 11 int's.

Are you going off of 2 preseason games?

BTW...Eli's fantasy points have dropped consistently over the past 3 years. They have a solid running game. Who would he throw to this year? They let go of their receivers.

IMO, Eli is not much better than Cassel. Cassel actually had more fantasy points than Eli last year. Cassel also plays in a much weaker division than Eli. For instance...Cassel is going up against the Raiders this week who have the worst record in the combined in the last 5 years (yes even worst than the lions) while the Giants are going up against Dallas.

And you wont even consider Matt Cassel decent?

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Just because of fantasy points? Eli is a way better qb then Cassel. Like you said, Giants have no receivers. Giants have a running game, Chiefs don't. Just because of fantasy points doesn't make somebody a better receiver. I still say Cassel isn't a good qb, he's not even decent to me, however he may be decent to other people.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Just because of fantasy points? Eli is a way better qb then Cassel. Like you said, Giants have no receivers. Giants have a running game, Chiefs don't. Just because of fantasy points doesn't make somebody a better receiver. I still say Cassel isn't a good qb, he's not even decent to me, however he may be decent to other people.

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Is this thread not about fantasy football?


You should go review the stats of Eli and Cassel from last season before you say anything else.

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Is this thread not about fantasy football?


You should go review the stats of Eli and Cassel from last season before you say anything else.

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I could actually careless about stats. I know Eli is a better qb. Everybody knows it actually. Just Cassel had a better year in fantasy.

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Originally Posted by Neal

I could actually careless about stats. I know Eli is a better qb. Everybody knows it actually. Just Cassel had a better year in fantasy.

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HAHA...ok.

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

HAHA...ok.

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You go look at the stats. Eli threw for like 400 less yards, 1 less interception, and Cassel also played for the patriots who had 2-3 good receivers. Need I say more?

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Originally Posted by Neal

You go look at the stats. Eli threw for like 400 less yards, 1 less interception, and Cassel also played for the patriots who had 2-3 good receivers. Need I say more?

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...please don't. He CLEARLY is not a decent QB in the NFL.

Eli is a decent QB, Cassel isn't.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Eli is a decent QB, Cassel isn't.

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You're absolutely right.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...ting/year/2008

screw both of em, i didn't realize phillip rivers had such a great year last year!

Eli has had the benefit of having an excellent team around him since he got into the league. He didn't want to go to a struggling team (Chargers at the time), and whined and cried his way to New York. If he went to a team with a bad o-line ala David Carr, he wouldn't even be starting right now. Cassel did have a better year last year, and it's pretty amazing how a QB that hadn't started a game since high school, had so much success in the NFL. I would still need to see more out of him to propel him above Eli as an NFL QB, but statistic-wise, he did have the superior year.

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Originally Posted by MarkieJ

Eli has had the benefit of having an excellent team around him since he got into the league. He didn't want to go to a struggling team (Chargers at the time), and whined and cried his way to New York. If he went to a team with a bad o-line ala David Carr, he wouldn't even be starting right now. Cassel did have a better year last year, and it's pretty amazing how a QB that hadn't started a game since high school, had so much success in the NFL. I would still need to see more out of him to propel him above Eli as an NFL QB, but statistic-wise, he did have the superior year.

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Thank You.

I agree with you 110%. That is was kinda ticked when the Chiefs gave him such a large contract only after one SUCCESSFUL season. That season could have been a fluke...only time will tell. BUT...compared to Eli last year...well yeah. He did better. I don't know how you argue otherwise?

Even though you have one season to judge him by...I don't know how someone wouldn't consider him a decent QB. Like you said...he had a better season than Eli. Must be nice for Eli to have TWO RBs who both went over the 1k yard mark last year to open up the passing game. Pretty sure the Patriots didn't have a single 1k yard rusher. Eli has it good.

Well I guess not EVERYONE thinks Eli is better than Cassel. :)

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

screw both of em, i didn't realize phillip rivers had such a great year last year!

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Ha...I had Phillip Rivers in one of my leagues last year and won that league with him. :)

I like Cassel, I also think he has the potential to put the chiefs in a playoff position in a division that sucks as bad as the raiders, the broncos, and as unlucky as the chargers. He has two highly over looked WR with Bowe and Bradley and potential running game with Johnson (all assuming he spends as much time on the field as in the court room).

In conclusion I believe Cassel will be a good qb to keep towards the end of the season when he is healthy and in the groove with an ever surprising KC team!

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Originally Posted by Fearless

I like Cassel, I also think he has the potential to put the chiefs in a playoff position in a division that sucks as bad as the raiders, the broncos, and as unlucky as the chargers. He has two highly over looked WR with Bowe and Bradley and potential running game with Johnson (all assuming he spends as much time on the field as in the court room).

In conclusion I believe Cassel will be a good qb to keep towards the end of the season when he is healthy and in the groove with an ever surprising KC team!

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I like your optimism! :gj:

I'm not to certain we are playoff bound YET. I am predicting 6 wins. But I believe Cassel is a QB you can build a team around. Last year the Chiefs were the youngest team in the league. As stated, the AFC West is weak, so the Chiefs are not THAT far away from being a competitor within the conference. Well...they are at least on the right track. I will say that next year we will surprise people.

Ugh and don't get me started on Larry Johnson. He plays when he wants to. I was hoping we would trade him away. Instead, we traded away Jarred Allen and gave LJ the big contract! Ugh!

His stats were from when he was with New England. New England has an awesome team, lets see how he does with the chiefs. Then I will give him credit.

i look at it like this... if joey harrington or matt leinhert or some other schmuck was the QB for the Pats, would they have been good? probably not. the fact is, the superior coaching he received allowed Cassel to keep himself ready and effective, even while playing backup for the most amazing man ever to don a football uniform.
is Cassel technically unproven? yes. is he a good NFL quarterback? yes, i'm not sure how you can say he's not. will he have a good season with the chiefs? depends more on the chiefs other pieces than it has to do with the QB... remember, in the NFL, you not only need a QB who is accurate and makes good decisions, but you need receivers that can stay on the same page with QB and run pristine routes.

Actually if Leinhert was on the Pats, I think he would do good. Joey Harrington, was always overrated. I never said he wasn't decent, I said to me he's not decent. That doesn't mean hes not a decent QB in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Actually if Leinhert was on the Pats, I think he would do good. Joey Harrington, was always overrated. I never said he wasn't decent, I said to me he's not decent. That doesn't mean hes not a decent QB in the NFL.

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What?

Or are ya backpeddaling now? :P

So you ARE saying he is a decent QB in the NFL now?

I am confused?

joshua, i think neal's saying, he's a decent quarterback... for the chiefs! but not for HIS team. :)

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

joshua, i think neal's saying, he's a decent quarterback... for the chiefs! but not for HIS team. :)

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There, you put it in better terms then I could of. Anybody playing in the NFL is good, or decent. As far as i'm concerned though, not decent to me means, I wouldn't have them on my team.

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

What?

Or are ya backpeddaling now? :P

So you ARE saying he is a decent QB in the NFL now?

I am confused?

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Read my post above, I think people mistook what I said, which is partially due to my fault in not making it clear. I'm not saying he isn't a good QB in the NFL, just to me he's not.

Man, wow...

T-Bone, Chris Johnson is killing for you. I mean like serious. He has 44 points.

Eek! :O I left way too many points on my bench, bad managing on my part... Jerhart you're up 91-39, but Dillan still has Romo, Jacobs, Witten, and Folk to play tonight.

T. Jones and R. Grant kind of let me down from what I was hoping. I hope Roy Williams does something half decent atleast.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Man, wow...

T-Bone, Chris Johnson is killing for you. I mean like serious. He has 44 points.

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Didn't me much good when everyone else that scored for me was sitting on the bench!!

Nothing is worse than having a decent team and then you dont play them!!

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Originally Posted by Fearless

Didn't me much good when everyone else that scored for me was sitting on the bench!!

Nothing is worse than having a decent team and then you dont play them!!

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Man, don't even feel bad. Grant, Jones & Williams totally let me down.

Williams especially since he only got me 1 pt... I should of started Hightower as a RB instead of one of the jones. I'm definately going to re-arrange.

In my other leagues, I had Greg Jennings starting, and he didn't catch anything. So He will cause me to lose 2/3 of my other leagues. Which I really don't care because my main focus is the bp.net one.

I take that back, I just checked. I will win one league unless Ronnie Brown scores the guy 18+ points, because i'm 17 ahead.

Then in another league im losing 83-82, but all his people have played, and I still have one player left which is Ronnie Brown, so as long as he gets 2+ pts, I win that league.

Then in my final league i'm down 89-79, but I still have Peyton Manning to play Monday, i'm pretty sure he will get me over 10 pts.

So my only hope is that Reggie Wayne some how doesn't do good, along with Ricky Williams and I will win the bp.net league also.

Going to be an interesting game for Emilio and Neal tonight.

Neal is up by 10 points and Emilio has two players playing tonight.

Ricky Williams. I don't think he will do much...so I don't think he will be a threat.

Reggie Wayne. This is where it gets real interesting. With Anthony Gonzalez out, this makes Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne that much more important to this offense tonight. One, if not both, of these guys could have a big night.

Sorry Neal...but I think Reggie Wayne will have a TD and 70 yards receiving. It will be close tho. Get out your Peyton Manning voodoo doll! :)

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

screw both of em, i didn't realize phillip rivers had such a great year last year!

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Wow...Palmer threw up 21 points against the Packers IN Lambeu. How did Stafford and Cassel do for ya? :P

Keeping that bench warm for me. :)

Oh and by the way.

I went down to KC this weekend for the Chiefs and Raiders game.

Broke my heart. :(

Held their offense to no TD's until the final minutes of the game. Which turned out to be the game winning TD. :mad:

In all...it wasn't a bad game for two of the worst football teams in the league :D

Good 2nd week guys.

Reggie Wayne has nothing so far, I know this is kind of mean, but I hope he gets hurt and has to sit just the remainder of this game out. Three of my people hurt me bad this week. Eli did good, almost as good as Brees.

Ooooh, that's bad karma Neal. Wish for a shutout of Marvin if you have to. Some of the best can get shut out on any given night. Just as I'm typing, Wayne catches a 15 yarder... :P

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Originally Posted by MarkieJ

Ooooh, that's bad karma Neal. Wish for a shutout of Marvin if you have to. Some of the best can get shut out on any given night. Just as I'm typing, Wayne catches a 15 yarder... :P

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Ok, I wish Wayne doesn't get him anymore points along with Williams. Then it's fair. I just really can't believe 3 of my people messed me over. Atleast I won my other 3 leagues.

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Going to be an interesting game for Emilio and Neal tonight.

Neal is up by 10 points and Emilio has two players playing tonight.

Ricky Williams. I don't think he will do much...so I don't think he will be a threat.

Reggie Wayne. This is where it gets real interesting. With Anthony Gonzalez out, this makes Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne that much more important to this offense tonight. One, if not both, of these guys could have a big night.

Sorry Neal...but I think Reggie Wayne will have a TD and 70 yards receiving. It will be close tho. Get out your Peyton Manning voodoo doll! :)

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Ohhh man, when I see the stats, and that Williams only had 67 yards rushing with no TD's, and that Wayne had only 3 cathces for 39 yards. I was so happy i'm like YEA BABY!!!! I WON BY 1 point. I soo couldn't wait to get home to throw this up. I'm so sorry but, I waited like 7 hours to do this. BOOYA. Anyways, now that it's out of my system, it was a really close game. I really thought I was going to lose. So now anyways I won 3/4 of my leagues. Since Ronnie Brown did so good, the other guy ended up beating me by like 10 pts.

Dam Wayne killed me they triple teamed him all night and Ricky should have scored at least one. Pennington has got to go. Good game Neal

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Dam Wayne killed me they triple teamed him all night and Ricky should have scored at least one. Pennington has got to go. Good game Neal

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Thanks. I was hoping they would stop him that night, I was hoping for a miracle. I knew Williams wouldn't be much of a threat. I figure he would get some yards, but hoped for no TD.

Good game though, don't worry, we have a rematch sooner or later.