supers

I was just thinking about all the different supers we can make from the codoms and found that only one I can think of will produce a bp with a super color but still has pattern. Otherwise it seems all the codom supers create a patternless animal.

Pastel seems to be the only one I can think of. Super pastel only affects the color leaving the pattern the same.

cinny x cinny - solid black/brown snake
black pastel x black pastel - solid black snake
lesser x lesser / butter x butter / mojave x mojave / russo x russo / phantom x phantom - blue eyed lucy solid white snake
yellow belly x yellow belly - ivory not solid white but still basically patternless IMO
fire x fire / sulphur x sulpher - black eyed lucy also solid white snake

of corse all these morphs can have some pattern like the yellow spots on the super fire etc but they are all basically patternless snakes.
I cant seem to think of a codom that only affects the color besides pastel.
If you know of one please share.

super enchi has a pattern, but it is affected by the mutation.

Super vanilla, chocolate, sable, and red axanthic all have pattern.

Red axanthics (Het Red x Het Red) even though they are labeled as hets its a co-dom morph; don't ask me I never understood it either. Powerball (Spotnose x Spotnose). Super vanilla.

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Red axanthics (Het Red x Het Red) even though they are labeled as hets its a co-dom morph; don't ask me I never understood it either. Powerball (Spotnose x Spotnose). Super vanilla.

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Its just as Pastels are Het for Super Pastel.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Its just as Pastels are Het for Super Pastel.

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I know its just this hobby is so darn confusing for a newbie.

Hets are a term usually associated with recessive morphs. I know its short for heterozygous which just means one copy of the gene but still. I just wish there was some uniformity to our already confusing hobby :)

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Originally Posted by Kryptonian

lesser x lesser / butter x butter / mojave x mojave / russo x russo / phantom x phantom - blue eyed lucy solid white snake

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http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...pythons_08.asp

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I know its just this hobby is so darn confusing for a newbie.

Hets are a term usually associated with recessive morphs. I know its short for heterozygous which just means one copy of the gene but still. I just wish there was some uniformity to our already confusing hobby :)

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I know it can be confusing, but how many times can you say heterozygous pastel, then you start saying het pastel, then you just get tired of that, then its just a damn pastel lol.

ok I guess the phantom super is not white, I just noticed when crossed with a lesser it makes a BEL.

but the super phantom is cool.
YouTube - 2006 SUPER PHANTOM!!..........KILLER!!

What happens if you use 2 male pastel on a spider...does that make any diff????like can a super produce in the clutch???

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What happens if you use 2 male pastel on a spider...does that make any diff????like can a super produce in the clutch???

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Both males can father babies but you wouldn't really know who was the daddy and you won't produce a super.

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Originally Posted by bad-one

both males can father babies but you wouldn't really know who was the daddy and you won't produce a super.

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thank you

this may seem silly but what about the super spider? It doesn't exist? Just 100% of the clutch comes out spider and prob with woobles.

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Originally Posted by BigManMoran

this may seem silly but what about the super spider? It doesn't exist? Just 100% of the clutch comes out spider and prob with woobles.

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There are reports of possible homozygous spiders and pinstripes out there, and they consistently throw clutches of 100% morphs and no normals. They don't look any different from the single gene copy animals (hence them being called dominant).

Of course, i can't substantiate this because i don't remember exactly where i found it.

I dont believe that spider to spider breeding cause more wobbles either. Low wobble spiders can produce high wobble spiders and vise versa.