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Rotting eggs please HELP!

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  • 09-12-2009, 03:14 PM
    kfuentes
    Rotting eggs please HELP!
    SO I had my lesser X normal clutch in an incubator that I have used once before for bearded dragon eggs: I used a 10 gallon fish tank with about 4 inches of water in it with a fish tank heater at the bottom and a saran (sp?) wrap top. The eggs were fine for the first 30 days. I look in today and they are all sludgy and starting to smell. I believe this is happening because the humidity is too high. They are not totally rotted just on thee way. What would you suggest to save these guys, with out spending lots of money on an incubator?
  • 09-12-2009, 03:24 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    If they are already smelling, they are more than likely dead.

    Candle them, and check again. To remove humidity, take the saran wrap off for a little and let the eggs breathe.

    For the future, you need to get a trustworthy incubator.
  • 09-12-2009, 03:41 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Yep, it sounds like you might be too late for these eggs. Once they get slimy they are more than likely dead. Can you post some pics?
  • 09-12-2009, 03:53 PM
    kfuentes
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
  • 09-12-2009, 03:58 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    They look fine to me. You have a little red mold starting which can be taken care of with a qtip and some athlete's foot powder. Otherwise, they look like a couple of clutches I had this season that hatched fine. You are probably smelling the mustiness of that mold. Good luck!

    EDIT: I have hatched eggs out fine in an incubator like what you are using. High humidity is good. You just don't want water dripping on the eggs which may have happened with Saran Wrap.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:03 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kfuentes View Post

    Fixed the link for you. :gj:

    They don't look horrible they can still be saved. Good Luck.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:20 PM
    roeder1969
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kfuentes View Post
    What would you suggest to save these guys, with out spending lots of money on an incubator?

    Hi

    it is probably the mould you can smell like someone said they may be too wet let some air in for a while
    If your not willing to spend cash how will you go on if your snakes become sick??
  • 09-12-2009, 04:24 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    They don't look as bad as I was expecting, but it looks like they might be starting to turn green. You will know in the next few days for sure. The humidity can't be too high. As long as there is no water touching them eggs should be fine. I think you more than likely had a temp spike. What are you using to control the temps?
  • 09-12-2009, 04:25 PM
    kfuentes
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    What would work better than saran wrap? I had it rubber banded on tight.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:28 PM
    toddmbecker1234
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    The problem is that once a day or two you need to open the saran wrap up and let fresh air in and dry off the moisture that has accumulated on the wrap. If you do not do this the air will become stagnant and if you do not sry off the wrap then droplets will appear and if they drop onto the eggs then they can be ruined. What you are using is called a closed egg box, meaning air is not being circulated, but you still need to allow fresh air in regularly. Todd
  • 09-12-2009, 04:30 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddmbecker1234 View Post
    The problem is that once a day or two you need to open the saran wrap up and let fresh air in and dry off the moisture that has accumulated on the wrap. If you do not do this the air will become stagnant and if you do not sry off the wrap then droplets will appear and if they drop onto the eggs then they can be ruined. What you are using is called a closed egg box, meaning air is not being circulated, but you still need to allow fresh air in regularly. Todd

    Not necessarily. I don't open my egg boxes from the first day of incubation until the last couple of weeks when I start opening it every few days or so. I don't have any moisture dripping on the eggs though.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:33 PM
    toddmbecker1234
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    Not necessarily. I don't open my egg boxes from the first day of incubation until the last couple of weeks when I start opening it every few days or so. I don't have any moisture dripping on the eggs though.

    Curious, are your egg boxes totally without holes? Most people i know use egg boxes with one or two holes in them, but I know of a few that use the sealed boxes, but they all do an air exchange. Todd
  • 09-12-2009, 04:35 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddmbecker1234 View Post
    Curious, are your egg boxes totally without holes? Most people i know use egg boxes with one or two holes in them, but I know of a few that use the sealed boxes, but they all do an air exchange. Todd

    No holes. I use tall boxes, no holes, with lids and Glad Press n Seal.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:39 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddmbecker1234 View Post
    Curious, are your egg boxes totally without holes? Most people i know use egg boxes with one or two holes in them, but I know of a few that use the sealed boxes, but they all do an air exchange. Todd

    I do the same thing. No holes, a tight seal, and I don't open the boxes very much at all. This was my last clutch the day before they started to pip.

    http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...0d9a39ba8b.jpg
  • 09-12-2009, 04:39 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddmbecker1234 View Post
    The problem is that once a day or two you need to open the saran wrap up and let fresh air in and dry off the moisture that has accumulated on the wrap. If you do not do this the air will become stagnant and if you do not sry off the wrap then droplets will appear and if they drop onto the eggs then they can be ruined. What you are using is called a closed egg box, meaning air is not being circulated, but you still need to allow fresh air in regularly. Todd

    You really don't have to open the box ever. About half of my clutches this year were never even looked at after they were placed in the incubator until they were at cutting day. Even had a couple pip early and the box had not been opened in 55 days. My boxes are totally air tight.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:41 PM
    toddmbecker1234
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    That is interesting and good to know. See been doing this stuff for over 20 years(keeping not breeding) and still eagerly learn new stuff every day.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:41 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddmbecker1234 View Post
    The problem is that once a day or two you need to open the saran wrap up and let fresh air in and dry off the moisture that has accumulated on the wrap. If you do not do this the air will become stagnant and if you do not sry off the wrap then droplets will appear and if they drop onto the eggs then they can be ruined. What you are using is called a closed egg box, meaning air is not being circulated, but you still need to allow fresh air in regularly. Todd

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    You really don't have to open the box ever. About half of my clutches this year were never even looked at after they were placed in the incubator until they were at cutting day. Even had a couple pip early and the box had not been opened in 55 days. My boxes are totally air tight.

    Agreed. As long as you make sure there's no condensation dripping on the eggs, you never have to open the egg box itself.
  • 09-12-2009, 04:43 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Like most people are saying, it should not be a problem!

    Daniel
  • 09-12-2009, 05:26 PM
    RhacHead
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    I don't want to Hijack but what precautions can be made to prevent condensation from falling on the eggs?
  • 09-12-2009, 05:46 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RhacHead View Post
    I don't want to Hijack but what precautions can be made to prevent condensation from falling on the eggs?

    If I am getting a lot of condensation I set my boxes up with one side sitting on a pencil so it is slightly unlevel. This causes any condensation to roll to the side of the tub and drip down the sides instead of straight down on top of the eggs.
  • 09-12-2009, 05:53 PM
    dr del
    Re: Rotting eggs please HELP!
    Hi,

    I'm still using one of those "tankubators" but I do not put saran wrap over the egg boxes at all - in fact I tend not to put any lids on whatsoever until I think they may be due to hatch and then I use lids with mesh panels.

    The heater and water in the bottom provide all the humidity you need and leaving the tops open means there is tons of air in the incubator.

    Here's what mine looks like at the moment.

    http://satanswombat.googlepages.com/...009clutch4.jpg

    I fully intend to upgrade to a fridge style incubator as soon as I can though.


    dr del
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