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  • 09-11-2009, 12:26 PM
    MsPrada
    The new scale came in, help please?
    Got the new scale! YAY

    So...my babies both just ate (and both pooped yesterday) so I was wondering how many days I should wait until I can weigh them?
  • 09-11-2009, 12:30 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    You can weigh them whenever you want as long as you make sure to wait 48 hours after a meal to do so.
  • 09-11-2009, 12:47 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Well the time after the meal is what I was wanting :) Don't want to count that 50g rat in there. Thanks!
  • 09-11-2009, 01:02 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    On my growth sheets I have a column that says "Empty" Y or N. I consider empty to be after a defecation, and more than 3 days after a feeding. I usually weigh mine after they defecate and depending on when they were fed last determines whether I mark them empty or not. I also weigh them after a shed and mark that as such...


    Rob
  • 09-11-2009, 01:04 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    I was hoping to weigh her before I fed her...well it turns out that FIVE MINUTES after I fed her the postal guy showed up with the scale. >.< Literally. And She just shed and defecated yesterday. It would have been nice to know he was coming today. Haha. But anyhow, if I wait two days after she eats, considering she just shed and defecated yesterday, how close to her empty weight will the new weight be?
  • 09-11-2009, 01:58 PM
    wilomn
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    I was hoping to weigh her before I fed her...well it turns out that FIVE MINUTES after I fed her the postal guy showed up with the scale. >.< Literally. And She just shed and defecated yesterday. It would have been nice to know he was coming today. Haha. But anyhow, if I wait two days after she eats, considering she just shed and defecated yesterday, how close to her empty weight will the new weight be?

    She won't be empty until, well, until she's empty. When she poops is when she'll be empty.
  • 09-11-2009, 02:34 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Well I meant how close would this weight be to the empty weight, after digestion and all that occurs. I know its not empty, but since she digested the prey item, would it be a big difference?
  • 09-11-2009, 02:38 PM
    wilomn
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    Well I meant how close would this weight be to the empty weight, after digestion and all that occurs. I know its not empty, but since she digested the prey item, would it be a big difference?

    I'm not trying to be mean here.

    If you put a 100 gram rat into your snake, your snake will weigh 100 grams more than it did prior to feeding.

    Until it poops, it will weigh 100 grams more.

    Once it poops, it will then be empty. That weight should be more than it's prior weight before eating the 100 gram rat, but less than 100 grams.

    I may not be writing it clearly, but I think that should be understandable.
  • 09-11-2009, 02:47 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Well you're not being mean.

    I just guess I don't understand how the acids in the stomach dont dissolve some of the rat before she poops.
  • 09-11-2009, 02:54 PM
    wilomn
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    Well you're not being mean.

    I just guess I don't understand how the acids in the stomach dont dissolve some of the rat before she poops.

    Ahhh, l see.

    The acids do dissolve the rat and it is digested, rendering it from rattis norwhatever to ratis poopis, changing it's configuration and weight.

    The 100 gram rat will not produce 100 grams of poop. It might be 80 or even 70 grams of poop which is, or should be, a net gain of 20 to 30 grams for your snake.

    Until it pees. Then that weight goes down a bit more.
  • 09-11-2009, 02:58 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    rattis norwhatever to ratis poopis


    :rofl::rofl::rofl:


    Thanks, I get it now :) They just don't really teach us much about snake digestion in all of my ANS classes. Too much about cows and pigs.
  • 09-11-2009, 08:52 PM
    bads15
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    i personally weigh my snakes after they poo while i clean their bins. this is part of my regular maintenance.
  • 09-12-2009, 03:40 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    To make things easier, I just weigh mine (except the full-grown adult) every week - usually two days after they eat, regardless of if/when they pooped. I keep records on everything with iHerp, so I can just look back and see if they're "empty" or not. With the regular weekly weighings, it doesn't really matter anyway, since I look at the overall gain on a monthly basis. Might not be the most scientific method, but it works for me. ;)

    P.S. I recently weighed Toby the day before and after a big poop, and got an idea of how much it weighed... he lost over 35g with that one. :weirdface
  • 09-12-2009, 03:41 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: The new scale came in, help please?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    You can weigh them whenever you want as long as you make sure to wait 48 hours after a meal to do so.

    This.

    Over time fed vs empty evens out.
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