Taking the Good With the Bad
This season I paired one of my female silver streaks with a pastel lesser and earlier this week I hatched out 2.0 Lesser Silver Streaks. Nice. I also hatched out 0.1 Lesser Black Pewters. Nice again. The clutch also has pastel lessers and super pastel lessers. Overall, Colin = happy.
One of my other pairings this season was a black pewter x black pewter. I really wanted to make a super super. Didn't work out. The only two super blacks in the clutch had deformities and didn't survive.
Such is being a ball python breeder ...take the good with the bad.
Lesser Silver Streak
http://www.ballpythonbreeder.com/ima...verStreak1.jpg
Another Lesser Silver Streak
http://www.ballpythonbreeder.com/ima...verStreak2.jpg
A Lesser Black Pewter
http://ballpythonbreeder.com/images/...lackPewter.jpg
And a bit of sadness
http://ballpythonbreeder.com/images/...ackPastel1.jpg
Cheers,
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Wow, Sorry for your loss
But on that same note, you have some smokin babies that are alive!
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Wow Colin you have some amazing projects!
Congrats on the successes and my sympathies on the sad disapointments,
Thanks for sharing:)
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Sucks about the Super blacks but it should be interesting to see how those Lesser combos color up!
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Sorry to hear about your little supers :tears:
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This hobby is like a rollercoaster..has alot of ups and downs..
Kevin
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Nice Colin!!!
Wish they all would have been perfect!!! Next Time!
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very nice silver streaks there..
sorry for the super super didnt happen. and sorry for the super black. what are their parents?
is it a deadly combo to produce?
cause i plan to breed my silver streak x albino. and expect black pewter & pastel babies which are 100% het albino. then if odds are good.. i wanna do the same thing like you did, the black pewter x black pewter.
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Aww man :(.
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Man, even if those Supers had survived WITH the defomities, I would've scooped 'em up cuz they're so damn gorgeous either way.
Beautiful survivors though. Congrats!
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is it a deadly combo to produce?
cause i plan to breed my silver streak x albino. and expect black pewter & pastel babies which are 100% het albino. then if odds are good.. i wanna do the same thing like you did, the black pewter x black pewter.
The parents are both Black Pewters which is not a deadly combo. Sometimes things just don't go well.
Super blacks are not known to have this difficulty so I attribute this to something that went wrong during incubation. I think it is coincidence that both of them happened to be super blacks. One of them was on the bottom of a tall egg pile and may have been too moist (the vermiculite).
Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
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The parents are both Black Pewters which is not a deadly combo. Sometimes things just don't go well.
Super blacks are not known to have this difficulty so I attribute this to something that went wrong during incubation. I think it is coincidence that both of them happened to be super blacks. One of them was on the bottom of a tall egg pile and may have been too moist (the vermiculite).
Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
It looks like they got tangled in the egg with is a developmental issue & can happen no matter what the morph. Sorry it happened to be the Super Blacks. Nice year otherwise though- awesome stuff!
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Colin sorry to hear bout the losses bud but you gotta look at the glass half full, at least you got some offspring this season. Out of the 3 snakes I paired together this past Fall only one produced. It was a pair of Dumeril's Boas in which I got 1 healthy baby out of and 12 slugs. She slugged out as they say...
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Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
Super blacks have kinking problems as well.
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Awww that is sad :(
The hatchlings that survived are gorgeous!
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Super blacks have kinking problems as well.
With the exception of these animals that has not been my experience.
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With the exception of these animals that has not been my experience.
Not always, but it is a known problem with super blacks. I remember Ralph Davis talking about it a year or two ago.
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Hi,
You don't happen to remember where or have a link?
I just bought a black pastel wih the intention of making 8balls at some point and am a little worried about it now. :weirdface
dr del
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sorry about the second pairing:( those pics are amazing:)
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Hi,
You don't happen to remember where or have a link?
I just bought a black pastel wih the intention of making 8balls at some point and am a little worried about it now. :weirdface
dr del
there is nothing to worry about in terms of 8balls being kinked. I have seen many superblacks and super cinnamons and have talked to many people that produce them and that is not an issue of concern. The only consistant issue is the narrow snout or duckbilling. These were simply an isolated instance and by chance the two eggs in that clutch that both supers were the dead in egg. Todd
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dr del
Hi,
You don't happen to remember where or have a link?
I just bought a black pastel wih the intention of making 8balls at some point and am a little worried about it now. :weirdface
dr del
I am pretty sure it was on his forum where I he talked about it. It was a long time ago. I tried to look for the thread, but the search feature does not seem to work on his forums.
There is a thread from a few weeks ago on KS about it and if you look on Ralph's 2007 birthing records there is one on page 1
Here is another link:
http://www.albeysreptiles.com/silbul08.htm
If you google "kinked super cinny" you will find a lot about it.
