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is my setup ok?

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  • 09-07-2009, 09:45 PM
    tsdsbd
    is my setup ok?
    alright im pretty sure my BP has a perfect setup right now
    its a youngie about 1.75' long

    30 gallon tank

    zoo med heating pad on left side

    heatlamp with a blacklight style bulb that i can use night and day depending on temps on right side

    accurite therm. and humidity guage (digital) probe on hot side

    hot side fluctuates from 88-94 depending on time of day
    cool side 75-82 depending on time of day

    any suggestions appreciated
  • 09-07-2009, 09:54 PM
    h00blah
    Re: is my setup ok?
    only problems IMO are the heat lamp and the 30g.
    a 30g CAN be good, just clutter it up a bit with foliage. a 10 gallon or 20 gallon is ideal, but as i said, foliage can make it look nice, AND provide extra security ;p

    the heat lamp will suck out humidity, so monitor that CLOSELY.

    one more thing: if its a glass tank (im guessing it is), cover 3/4 of the sides of the tank to also increase security =p.

    pics of the setup would be much appreciated =]
  • 09-07-2009, 10:07 PM
    tsdsbd
    Re: is my setup ok?
    yeah i should get some more foliage to add to it, and cover it up on 3 sides, theres 2 equal sized hides on both sides and a good sized water dish, so theres not too much space to put much foliage.
  • 09-07-2009, 10:14 PM
    MsPrada
    Re: is my setup ok?
    You want to make sure the hides hug the young bp on all sides. They might take up space in the tank but if they are too big then the Bp will most likely become stressed, being so little with so much space.
  • 09-07-2009, 10:17 PM
    h00blah
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MsPrada View Post
    You want to make sure the hides hug the young bp on all sides. They might take up space in the tank but if they are too big then the Bp will most likely become stressed, being so little with so much space.

    x2

    also, u already hav the temps where u want em, which is a huge deal bc a lot of ppl using glass tanks struggle with temps / humidity. so u got +1 :gj:

    just work on reducing stress now as best as u can :P
  • 09-07-2009, 10:36 PM
    Hock3ymonk3y
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Thermostats are IMPERATIVE when keeping a reptile.
    If you do not have one please get one.

    BTW 500th post :) :fest:
  • 09-07-2009, 10:43 PM
    omnibus2
    Re: is my setup ok?
    temps etc are great, but like mentioned before I reommend you get a smaller tank or a tub, especially if your bp does is roaming around during the day-that means he is stressed. Btw where did you purchase your acu-rite?
  • 09-07-2009, 11:02 PM
    h00blah
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omnibus2 View Post
    Btw where did you purchase your acu-rite?

    ok, idk if u were asking the OP bc udk if he has one, or if u want to get one but cant find it, but here is one cheap one that i found online a while ago

    http://www.weatherconnection.com/pro...9964&s=froogle
  • 09-07-2009, 11:14 PM
    omnibus2
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    ok, idk if u were asking the OP bc udk if he has one, or if u want to get one but cant find it, but here is one cheap one that i found online a while ago

    http://www.weatherconnection.com/pro...9964&s=froogle

    Yeah I couldn't find the right acu rite thermometer from any local stores. Thanks for the tip, but that one's shipping is expensive. I guess I should try to order one from amazon.
  • 09-07-2009, 11:38 PM
    psycho
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omnibus2 View Post
    temps etc are great, but like mentioned before I reommend you get a smaller tank or a tub, especially if your bp does is roaming around during the day-that means he is stressed. Btw where did you purchase your acu-rite?

    Actually...2 feet of space is the most you can get for a hatchling...it shall do fine as long as its eating...my bps go out during the day to get water or to bask or just to roam around & they're pretty healthy snakes & never miss a feeding...roaming around in the day doesn't mean there stress...actually I have my 2 1/2 feet bp in a 60 gallon tank & it eats meaning its not stress...it all depends on the bp...
  • 09-07-2009, 11:48 PM
    psycho
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by omnibus2 View Post
    temps etc are great, but like mentioned before I reommend you get a smaller tank or a tub, especially if your bp does is roaming around during the day-that means he is stressed. Btw where did you purchase your acu-rite?

    Actually...2 feet of space is the most you can get for a hatchling...it shall do fine as long as its eating...my bps go out during the day to get water or to bask or just to roam around & they're pretty healthy snakes & never miss a feeding...roaming around in the day doesn't mean there stress...actually I have my 2 1/2 feet bp in a 60 gallon tank & it eats meaning its not stress...it all depends on the bp...
  • 09-07-2009, 11:54 PM
    toddmbecker1234
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by psycho View Post
    Actually...2 feet of space is the most you can get for a hatchling...it shall do fine as long as its eating...my bps go out during the day to get water or to bask or just to roam around & they're pretty healthy snakes & never miss a feeding...roaming around in the day doesn't mean there stress...actually I have my 2 1/2 feet bp in a 60 gallon tank & it eats meaning its not stress...it all depends on the bp...

    That actually is very incorrect information. Ball Pythons are nocturnal creatures that spend the daytime in various burrows hidden from the extreme heat of the day as well as from teh predators that can prey on them. They come out at night to do whatever it is they want to do, eat drink, mate, etc...
    In all honasty if your ball python is constantly roaming in its cage then something is wrong and the snake is telling you this. I am not talking about the snake coming out to get a drink or self regulating its temp by moving from hot to cold side. If it is constantly moving it is an unhappy ball python as this is not there normal behavior. Todd
  • 09-08-2009, 02:20 AM
    Artistry Exotics
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    a 30g CAN be good, just clutter it up a bit with foliage. a 10 gallon or 20 gallon is ideal, but as i said, foliage can make it look nice, AND provide extra security ;p

    Aren't 30g tanks the same footprint as a 20g long, just taller? Would it still be considered too big if that's the case?

    Ok, just looked it up - 29g tanks are the same footprint as a 20g long. I think a lot of 29g tanks are mistaken for 30g tanks though, or at least are called 30g cause they're "close enough". At least that's how it is around here - most of the fish tanks we have/sell at the store where I work are actually 29g tanks, but they get called 30 gallons all the time. A true 30 gallon tank isn't that much bigger, and I don't think that'd be too big for some ball pythons, especially adult females.
  • 09-08-2009, 07:31 AM
    MsPrada
    Re: is my setup ok?
    I think the reason hooblah mentioned a 10 gallon or a reg 20 gallon is because the snake in question is a baby. But if you clutter it enough he/she may do fine.
  • 09-08-2009, 07:46 AM
    omnibus2
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by psycho View Post
    Actually...2 feet of space is the most you can get for a hatchling...it shall do fine as long as its eating...my bps go out during the day to get water or to bask or just to roam around & they're pretty healthy snakes & never miss a feeding...roaming around in the day doesn't mean there stress...actually I have my 2 1/2 feet bp in a 60 gallon tank & it eats meaning its not stress...it all depends on the bp...

    Like toddmbecker1234 also mentioned, a roaming ball python is usually a sign of stress. They should be spending the day time hiding and resting.

    I'm not sure how well your ball python is doing, but 60 gallons is way too much space for a ball python in my opinion.
  • 09-08-2009, 12:02 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: is my setup ok?
    A 5 degree temperature swing for the hot side is a bit much. Your temps should be constant during the day and at night.

    If you do not already have one, get a thermostat. If you are going to be running a UTH you absolutely need a way to control its heat output. If you don't you risk COOKING your snake. The cheapest model I am aware of is the reptitemp 500R which is about $25 online.

    I also think a 30g is too big for a ball python and overall not suitable for the species. It is way too tall and ball pythons will never utilize the height. Maybe as babies, but adults no not climb.
  • 09-08-2009, 12:09 PM
    WaRocker
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tsdsbd View Post
    alright im pretty sure my BP has a perfect setup right now
    its a youngie about 1.75' long

    30 gallon tank

    zoo med heating pad on left side

    heatlamp with a blacklight style bulb that i can use night and day depending on temps on right side

    accurite therm. and humidity guage (digital) probe on hot side

    hot side fluctuates from 88-94 depending on time of day
    cool side 75-82 depending on time of day

    any suggestions appreciated


    Sounds pretty good. The cold temp you have 75-82.. Well 75 might be a bit cold at least for my taste but you do have a good mix. So how is the humidity? and I am sure you have like 2 hides one on each side? .. do you have a temp gun to actually get the surface reading? This would be a must. It may read 92 on the hot but the surface coulf be 110 +++..
    Sorry if you have this stuff and have it all figured out I just like to see the animals get proper care.
    You will find that everyone has their own lil diffrences but for the most part about the same.. Keep up the great work!
  • 09-09-2009, 05:36 PM
    trott
    Re: is my setup ok?
    Make your uth side the warm side if you already dont. And if your not using a thermosthat use lamp dimmers to have control of your heat sources but your room where the snake is must maintain a connsistant temp or your be adjusting tor heat sources alot with your dimmers. In other words if you open a window or the temp in your room goes up and down so will the temps in your enclosure. Thermosthat does it for you.
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