Question about axanthics

Do axanthics typically have a clear belly or do they have some patterning on it? I ask because I just picked up a ball that I think may be one. I'm trying to find the camera cord right now and will post pics when I find it.

Ummmmmmmm I'm pretty sure getting an axanthic confused with ANYTHING is impossible

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner.../axanthic.html

Aside from axanthic with another morph in there nothing else looks like them.

Here are some pics of the snake in question. In the 2 pics with 2 snakes he is the smaller darker one in with a normal. And in the last one his belly is like that 100% all the way down.[IMG]http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p...h/IMG_5775.jpg[/IMG]

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I don't know... He looks too yellow to be an Axanthic to me.

P.S. You should really try to quarantine any new animals.. :)

It is in qt that was just for the photo for 10 seconds. And he has no yellow on him whatsoever. I guess it's one of those you have to see in person kind of things?

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Originally Posted by supercinnamon1day

It is in qt that was just for the photo for 10 seconds. And he has no yellow on him whatsoever. I guess it's one of those you have to see in person kind of things?

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just to let you know, you completely broke your quarantine by introducing him to your other animals, even if it "was just for 10 seconds"..

In the photo he does appear pretty yellow.

If he has mites, your other snake is now going to be crawling with them.

And the tan/brown on his back is probably due to yellow pigment. He's a pretty looking normal.

First things first,
Is this your snake? A: NO
Is it your place to tell me about my animals? B: NO
Am I sending these snakes to you? C: NO
Why is it that you just cannot reply with a simple answer about the question asked. I am not new to this and for those who know me and have seen my collection know I take very good care of my animals. Now unless you have a reasonable response to my question, leave my hunbandry out of your responses!!



Thanks to those however who replied positively.
Have a good one.:D

In my experience, Axanthics will not have a clear belly like most pattern morphs. Axanthics are simply lacking in yellow pigment, meaning pattern does not change. But of course, you can still get clear bellied normals.

its a norm. and its probably best to be super super strict with animals in quarantine. im sure u already kno that tho :rolleyes:

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Now unless you have a reasonable response to my question, leave my hunbandry out of your responses!!
:D

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yeah thumbs up!!!!
i dont entirely understand why on any forum people have to add their 2 cents to every post. unless you have ocd some husbandry practices get bipassed at times. it happens not everything in this game is by the book. usually only the experienced keepers know this.
adam jeffery
also from ny about an hour and a half from buffalo

Definitely a normal. An axanthic at that age should have absolutely no browns or yellows, they should be quite silver.

Quarantining serves a good purpose and you did in fact break quarantine by putting it in the same tub as the other snake. No one is trying to tell you what to do with your snakes, we are simply here to help new BP owners. Quarantining is of up most importance to your snakes' health. Hopefully you'll be lucky and nothing with come of it. I quarantine my snakes for two months even when I get them from amazing breeders, just about everyone on this site would do the same. Just keep in mind that everyone on this site cares very much about BPs. Granted sometimes people can be a bit crazy if you don't do things their way, but in this situation there is only ONE way to quarantine a BP and that is to have ABSOLUTELY no contact with another snake or another snake's tub. That includes washing your hands before and after you handle a quarantined snake/hide/tub/water dish etc. It's very easy to spread a disease, not so easy to get rid of it.

It's not an Axanthic. But it's a nice dark normal.

We're not being hard on you about QT, we care enough to let you know the risk you took. I knew a person on Fauna, she lost her whole collection & she just had the snake in the same room as the rest of her collection in it's own tub. So separate tubs, separate rooms & wash well after handling the new arrivals. There are sellers I do not buy from due their lack of proper quarantine, it's that important to many keepers here.

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Originally Posted by Isis

Definitely a normal. An axanthic at that age should have absolutely no browns or yellows, they should be quite silver.
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actually an axanthic AT that age will more than likely have browned out(but not to this extent).
they are black and silver at birth but as they age they normally but not always brown out. the only yellow they get is in the brown form.
i believe in this case that its a normal andnot an axanthic.
the vpi black axanthic stays black and grey but its a new recessive morph.
the regular vpi axanthic color stays the best out of the other 3 lines.
jolliff is right in the middle and the snake keeper line browns out the most.
in order from best to not best
vpi black axan
vpi axan
jolliff axan
tsk axan
adam jeffery

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Quote adam jeffery:
the regular vpi axanthic color stays the best out of the other 3 lines.
jolliff is right in the middle and the snake keeper line browns out the most.
in order from best to not best
vpi black axan
vpi axan
jolliff axan
tsk axan

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That is opinion, and I disagree.
I have seen good and bad examples of each line of Axanthics.

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Originally Posted by Isis

Definitely a normal. An axanthic at that age should have absolutely no browns or yellows, they should be quite silver.

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This animal is over 450 grams tho' and producing plugs

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we are simply here to help new BP owners. .

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Not new either by any means.:D

People that usually take offense to someones comment do so because they are wrong. Plain and simple. And just because you "are not new" does not know that you might be unfamiliar with something that should be second nature to someone with your vast experience. How are we supposed to nkow that you have such experience when you ask a simple question such as is this an axanthic. To many that would be a simple sign of a newbie and that they might not have the general knowledge about quarentining that they should. THese people take the time to try to assist you by giving you the information you asked for, no it is not an axanthic it is a normal, and to try and help you out and your animals a little more they take the time to try to educate in proper quarentine techniques. THere is no reason to be upset by that, Take the information these people offer you and be happy that they freely gave it to you. If you already new proper quarentine procedures and chose not to follow them then simply, i feel sorry for your animals because eventually, regardless of your amount of experience it will come back to bite you. Best of wishes and good luck, Todd

Perhaps this image can assist you..

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/compare1.jpg

Viewers left is a normal, viewers right is an adult axanthic.

The animal in question (yours) has yellow pigment. It is most easily seen (to me) on its back and on the sides.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

Perhaps this image can assist you..

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/compare1.jpg

Viewers left is a normal, viewers right is an adult axanthic.

The animal in question (yours) has yellow pigment. It is most easily seen (to me) on its back and on the sides.

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thats a good example of one thats started to brown out a little. a great example of an average on
adam jeffery

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Originally Posted by rjk890

That is opinion, and I disagree.
I have seen good and bad examples of each line of Axanthics.

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thats true it is opinion, but its an opinion that is shared among many of the top breeders based on the average of each line. their is always exceptional and crappy versions of each. but yes an opinion.andishould of stated that in my post, thanks for pointing it out to others.
adam jeffery

Being color blind sure doesn't help me with these Axanthic pictures.

Here's some SKs:

Taken with filtered sunlight through my window, so there is a warm cast:
Male-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4462.jpg
Female-
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4480.jpg

These are not the best pics, but note there is NO yellow, just black, white & as these are adults- brown as well. When they are next to normals it's very obvious.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

Perhaps this image can assist you..

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/compare1.jpg

Viewers left is a normal, viewers right is an adult axanthic.

The animal in question (yours) has yellow pigment. It is most easily seen (to me) on its back and on the sides.

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thats a good example of one thats started to brown out a little. a great example of an average on
adam jeffery

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That is a great example of an adult axanthic period. Just because people post their throphy axanthic in pictures and videos and are very silvery looking does not mean every axanthic should be like that. Those are the exeptions not the rule.

My VPI does not a have a clear belly but I dont have a pic at hand at the moment. I hope you figure everything out. :gj:

This is what an axanthic should look like. She's an SK Axanthic. I've known her for 4 years, which puts her at 5 or 6 years old if I remember right, maybe older. There's no camera lighting tricks, that's her (obviously ovulating). This picture is right off www.jdconstriction.com jpman78 on here. This is the only axanthic I've met in person and she's extraordinary.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...oolie_09ov.jpg

As for your responce about not being a newbie, I assumed you were a newbie because "is my normal a morph" threads are newbie threads. Sorry.... :rolleyes:

Dont worry about it. Im over it:D