Interesting/Sad clutch

Some of you may remember that I posted pics of a Caramel in the egg. Unfortunately it died in the egg. The clutch was DH Glow x Het Caramel. 5 eggs, 1 slug. 2 eggs died around day 30-35. The Caramel died in the egg and damn it was beautiful! The two remaining snakes came out yesterday at day 64. 0.2 66% het Caramel/50% het Hypo. They are amazing looking and it's pretty exciting that both are girls. One has very cool granite spots. The camera battery was dead when I went to take pics so some will be coming shortly! My incubator has been set at about 87.8 or so and I incubated the 2 Caramel clutches on the bottom shelf which is probably 1 to 1.5 degrees lower. Its too small of a sampling to lend any credence to the theory of lower temps, more girls (as someone posted recently). Not even sure that it is in any way valid. I just cut the second Caramel clutch tonight so we'll see what the sex ratio is when those come out. 5 eggs there so possibly a better sampling.

I'm glad you got those two girls out of that clutch, but it sucks about the others. Throwing some good vibes your way for better luck on the second clutch.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Its too small of a sampling to lend any credence to the theory of lower temps, more girls (as someone posted recently). Not even sure that it is in any way valid.

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It's not valid at all. Sex is genetically determined in ball pythons and has nothing to do with incubation temperatures in any way ... that's a proven scientific fact. ;)

Sorry about your loss bro, it sucks when stuff like that happens.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

It's not valid at all. Sex is genetically determined in ball pythons and has nothing to do with incubation temperatures in any way ... that's a proven scientific fact. ;)

Sorry about your loss bro, it sucks when stuff like that happens.

-adam

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I understand what science says. I think there has been some interesting talk lately about lower temps and higher female to male sex ratios. I am just trying to contribute my personal findings :gj: ;) Thanks superstar!

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Originally Posted by jglass38

there has been some interesting talk lately about lower temps and higher female to male sex ratios.

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Any such findings would be purely coincidental. :gj:

Blessings,

-adam

I just tell certain eggs to be female and it works for me.

Hope this helps-

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Any such findings would be purely coincidental. :gj:

Blessings,

-adam

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Thanks for your blessings, pal. :gj:

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Originally Posted by waltah!

I just tell certain eggs to be female and it works for me.

Hope this helps-

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Sweet!!

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Originally Posted by waltah!

I'm glad you got those two girls out of that clutch, but it sucks about the others. Throwing some good vibes your way for better luck on the second clutch.

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Thanks dude! Much appreciated!

Sorry you lost that Caramel, that sucks.

I've been kicked in the shins this season too and it dont feel good:(

i hope the luck didnt run out already i still have 3 clutches in the incubator:taz:

so sorry to hear that man. Was the caramel kinked?

Let us know how this next clutch does?

Justin

Aww man :(.Sorry this happened

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Sorry you lost that Caramel, that sucks.

I've been kicked in the shins this season too and it dont feel good:(

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Thanks man...It definitely doesn't feel good but we have to move on.

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

so sorry to hear that man. Was the caramel kinked?

Let us know how this next clutch does?

Justin

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Thanks Justin! No kinks. Just wasn't in the cards to live.

I will definitely have some updates on the next clutch!

Hugs for Jaime.

Next year, buddy.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I understand what science says. I think there has been some interesting talk lately about lower temps and higher female to male sex ratios. I am just trying to contribute my personal findings :gj: ;) Thanks superstar!

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I had 2 6 egg clutches hatch out a week apart: 5.1 & 1.5 were the ratios so sometimes it does look odd but get a big enough sample size & it seems to balance out. Just to double check within my 4 years of breeding I am 2.5% to the good on females, which again isn't are large enough sample size to state any clear advantage.

One thing for sure, we never stop learning & captive breeding of Regius is still relatively new.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Hugs for Jaime.

Next year, buddy.

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Thanks Heather! I have some cool stuff hatching now so I will be ok... :)

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Originally Posted by NorthernRegius

I had 2 6 egg clutches hatch out a week apart: 5.1 & 1.5 were the ratios so sometimes it does look odd but get a big enough sample size & it seems to balance out. Just to double check within my 4 years of breeding I am 2.5% to the good on females, which again isn't are large enough sample size to state any clear advantage.

One thing for sure, we never stop learning & captive breeding of Regius is still relatively new.

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Absolutely! You never can tell what is going to pop out!

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Absolutely! You never can tell what is going to pop out!

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Breeding Ball Pythons is like playing Poker where you get to shuffle and deal but can't look at your hand until everything is said and done, and all bets are in.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Some of you may remember that I posted pics of a Caramel in the egg. Unfortunately it died in the egg. The clutch was DH Glow x Het Caramel. 5 eggs, 1 slug. 2 eggs died around day 30-35. The Caramel died in the egg and damn it was beautiful! The two remaining snakes came out yesterday at day 64. 0.2 66% het Caramel/50% het Hypo. They are amazing looking and it's pretty exciting that both are girls. One has very cool granite spots. The camera battery was dead when I went to take pics so some will be coming shortly! My incubator has been set at about 87.8 or so and I incubated the 2 Caramel clutches on the bottom shelf which is probably 1 to 1.5 degrees lower. Its too small of a sampling to lend any credence to the theory of lower temps, more girls (as someone posted recently). Not even sure that it is in any way valid. I just cut the second Caramel clutch tonight so we'll see what the sex ratio is when those come out. 5 eggs there so possibly a better sampling.

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I feel your pain brother, and I hate to hear that. Congrats on the 2 girls though, by odds, one of them should make you a Glow, when she gets bigger. How many Caramels are in that second clutch that you cut? Good luck with them.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I feel your pain brother, and I hate to hear that. Congrats on the 2 girls though, by odds, one of them should make you a Glow, when she gets bigger. How many Caramels are in that second clutch that you cut? Good luck with them.

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Thanks dude! They are super hot. Second clutch is definitely 2 Caramels and hopefully 3 (the 3rd is all belly at this point) :D

Sorry about your loss Jamie and BEST of luck moving forward. Can't wait to see those Caramels

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Originally Posted by spk329

Sorry about your loss Jamie and BEST of luck moving forward. Can't wait to see those Caramels

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Thanks!

Sad to hear Bro. Good luck with those girls they'll make it up to you.

Very sorry to hear about the caramel. Hope you have better luck next year.

Sorry to hear that the little carmel didn't make it :(