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  • 09-01-2009, 09:01 AM
    trott
    Sign of intelligence
    Last night i look over at my leucistic, (which is in one of my displays in the living room)and she's trying to do her normal resting her head a few inches outside her hide. I have fake foilage hanging over her hide and it moved so one big leaf was right in front of the hole.
    I watched her for about a minute trying to move this leaf out of the way with her head and she finally came out about 8 inches and pushed the whole vine up and out of the way, then right back to her resting spot of her head out about 3 inches watching whats going on.
    Thought it ws cool because it showed intent and the leaf was bothering her.
    Maybe i dont give them enough credit and this is no big deal but i love observing these guys.

    Anyone else witness anything like this ?
  • 09-01-2009, 09:22 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    That's cool. :) Only thing I can think of is how Toby used to move his hide (before I switched him to a bigger one), if the temperatures weren't exactly to his liking. He had a cave on each side, but if neither were good enough, he'd move one to the middle... I never caught him in the act, but assume he did it from the inside. They really are smarter than some people realize - not the smartest animals, but not that dumb either. ;)
  • 09-01-2009, 09:23 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trott View Post
    Last night i look over at my leucistic, (which is in one of my displays in the living room)and she's trying to do her normal resting her head a few inches outside her hide. I have fake foilage hanging over her hide and it moved so one big leaf was right in front of the hole.
    I watched her for about a minute trying to move this leaf out of the way with her head and she finally came out about 8 inches and pushed the whole vine up and out of the way, then right back to her resting spot of her head out about 3 inches watching whats going on.
    Thought it ws cool because it showed intent and the leaf was bothering her.
    Maybe i dont give them enough credit and this is no big deal but i love observing these guys.

    Anyone else witness anything like this ?


    I have a few animals that when it gets to be feeding day they will move under their paper and wait to ambush the rat.. you can see them finding a break in the paper and waiting inside of it to spring their trap.

    I think they have some intelligence and decision making ability's.
  • 09-01-2009, 09:30 AM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    One feeding day, mine come right out to the front for food... basic conditioned response there.

    But more complex is that many of mine like to stretch out when handled. They have figured how to anchor on me & assist my help. They will wrap one end of their body around my hand & the other around my neck then nudge me to extend my arm slightly... I use my fee hand to support their mid-section. Hearing the little popping sound as they align their spines is weird at first, but they seem to enjoy it a great deal.
  • 09-01-2009, 10:42 AM
    trott
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Very cool. I thought it was interesting because it was like something was in her way and she moved it.Which was kinda like a non-instinctual thought.
  • 09-01-2009, 11:56 AM
    spitfireashlea
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Shakti will come FLYING out of her hide when she hears the *click* of my tub i keep her food in. Nothing else makes her move so quickly, but once she hears it, shes on alert :P. It's pretty cute actually.
  • 09-01-2009, 12:06 PM
    Hulihzack
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    One of my Hondurans moved its newspaper hide from one end of her 41qt tub to the other, and placed it over her water bowl, so she could hide and soak. I don't know how smart that makes her, but it was cool :)
  • 09-01-2009, 12:21 PM
    bads15
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Quote:

    That's cool. Only thing I can think of is how Toby used to move his hide (before I switched him to a bigger one), if the temperatures weren't exactly to his liking. He had a cave on each side, but if neither were good enough, he'd move one to the middle... I never caught him in the act, but assume he did it from the inside. They really are smarter than some people realize - not the smartest animals, but not that dumb either.
    thats funny, one of mine used to do that too. she would get in her hide, push up and just wiggle her way to a new spot. it was like watching the hide suddenly levitate,move over, and then park.
  • 09-01-2009, 12:22 PM
    Raptor
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    I don't have a set feeding schedule set up yet and I don't know the old owner's feeding schedule. So, here's something interesting. The tank I keep Morana in has a sliding top with a small hole in the lip and tank for a pin to lock. Since the tank is a bit higher than I am tall, I usually have to fumble around to get the pin out. Usually, this causes Morana to poke her head out of her hide. If she sees the lid coming off, she comes out and starts cruising around since it means one of two things: either it's dinner time, or she's going to get handled.

    Another thing that's interesting is that the first time I handled her after I got her, I took the hide out since she was under it. I put her in first, then the hide. She did the tail buzzing until I put it down. After investigating it, she hasn't done the tail buzzing since and I do the same routine. I think snakes do have a sort of intelligence, despite some of it being conditioning or getting used to routine.
  • 09-01-2009, 12:35 PM
    americangypsy
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolo76 View Post
    that's cool. :) only thing i can think of is how toby used to move his hide (before i switched him to a bigger one), if the temperatures weren't exactly to his liking. He had a cave on each side, but if neither were good enough, he'd move one to the middle... I never caught him in the act, but assume he did it from the inside. They really are smarter than some people realize - not the smartest animals, but not that dumb either. ;)

    :8:
  • 09-01-2009, 12:41 PM
    accidental777
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    That's funny....my het pied gal likes to move her hide around as well. I kind of figured she was just making herself extra comfy.
  • 09-01-2009, 01:09 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Snickets used to have a cork hide, but it was a bit too big for her tub so we've since replaced it. Even though they can't show emotion, I'm pretty sure she loved that cork hide. Our guess is she liked the texture. So after taking out the cork, she ignored the new hide we gave her. After a few hours of this, I broke off part of the cork and set it under the hide to see if it would coax her inside of it. She ended up sitting on the part of the cork that wouldn't fit under the hide :rolleyes: I think she finally saw that most of the cork was inside of the hide and went in, then I took the cork out from the hide. I still have that little piece in there though, and occasionally I'll find her curled up on it.
  • 09-01-2009, 01:39 PM
    BabysMomma
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Baby is familiar with his carrier, and will crawl into it of his own accord if we're out and about and he's tired of being oohed and aahed over. At a vet check however, when the vet was checking inside his mouth, he didn't like that and squirmed away. Instead of going to his carrier, which was right beside him, he crawled across the table to me and hid his face in my hair.

    Also, he's had a branch that he likes to perch and do his branch potato thing on since forever, at one point I wound a fake vine around it to see if he'd like the extra hiding place. I came back into the room a few hours later to find the leaves of the vine all pushed down to one side...in front of his hide.

    Apparently the little diva likes me as a hiding place, but is less than thrilled with my interior design ideas.
  • 09-01-2009, 03:38 PM
    Aleria
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    My hog island boa will wait for me to get home every day to stick just the first 6-8" of her neck out of her hide so she can see what I'm doing when I come in. I didn't really notice it at first and just assumed she always kept her head out but I started looking in the cage as soon as I'd get home and she wouldn't be out and within a minute she'd rearrange herself so she could stick her head out and watch me.
    On the weekends when I'm home all day and night she usually won't even put her head back in her hide, it's like she knows I'm still there even if I turn the lights off and just sit there playing a game or watching tv, somehow she can tell that's different from when all the lights are off when I'm not home.
    My albino doesn't really seem to care either way, although he is one, like it seems a lot of others, that like to perch on my head when I have him out. Luckily he's still small enough to do that.
  • 09-01-2009, 10:01 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    one of mine puts his F/T rats in his water bowl and pushes it against the side to hold it in place while he eats it... The first time I saw him do it I thought it was an accident, but he does it almost every time...



    Rob
  • 09-01-2009, 10:14 PM
    BabysMomma
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    one of mine puts his F/T rats in his water bowl and pushes it against the side to hold it in place while he eats it... The first time I saw him do it I thought it was an accident, but he does it almost every time...



    Rob

    That's hilarious to me, because mine hates getting wet xD even if only the tip of his tail dips into the water dish, he'll hold it up straight in the air and glare at the dish like it attacked him.
  • 09-01-2009, 10:50 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Sign of intelligence
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bads15 View Post
    thats funny, one of mine used to do that too. she would get in her hide, push up and just wiggle her way to a new spot. it was like watching the hide suddenly levitate,move over, and then park.

    LOL one of mine does the exact same thing! I see levitating caves all the time! :rolleyes:
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