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  • 08-31-2009, 05:29 PM
    Strtaylor
    What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Hey,
    Im new to the ball python world and pastels really caught my eye and my price range at this time. I know alot of what it looks like it personal preference but i was just wondering what a good pastel is supposed to look like. This will be my first snake and possibly down the road wanna do some personal breeding for myself nothing large scale. I was just wondering if anyone could describe or show pictures of what a good pastel looks like ive picked out a few from different breeders and just trying to see which snake i should choose. For both looks and breeding aspects.
    -Thanks
  • 08-31-2009, 05:31 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    To me this is a quality Pastel..

    He belongs to Rabernet and is the only pastel I'll pay for offspring from..
    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...nstonJune2.jpg
  • 08-31-2009, 05:33 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    For pastels, bright yellows and very little browning out, with blushing along the back, is generally considered "good quality".

    Throw in a very clean pattern or very reduced pattern and there's some bonus "quality" as well.
  • 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM
    Strtaylor
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    From everywhere ive looked ive seen prices anywhere from $85-$175 usd. Extremely new so im not sure who to go through or what BP to purchase i guess im waiting around to see which would be best for my liking and possibly some at home fun breeding. Thanks for the posts. Oh and i have pictures of the 5 different ones i am looking at i just really dont wanna post pictures when its not my snake yet and its the breeders.
  • 08-31-2009, 08:13 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    from what i understand pastels, especially lemon pastels go through an "ugly duckling" phase.

    I'll be watching this thread for more info. :D
  • 08-31-2009, 08:16 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    from what i understand pastels, especially lemon pastels go through an "ugly duckling" phase.

    I'll be watching this thread for more info. :D

    Yep lemons do go through an "ugly duckling" phase where you look at them and go MEH!! but two months and 5 sheds later they melt the tub their so hot..
  • 08-31-2009, 08:19 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Yep lemons do go through an "ugly duckling" phase where you look at them and go MEH!! but two months and 5 sheds later they melt the tub their so hot..

    do they continue to change a lot as they grow? I've got a male of an unknown line (but i do know the original breeder) and some days he looks HOT and others he is just so-so. :/
  • 08-31-2009, 08:23 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    do they continue to change a lot as they grow? I've got a male of an unknown line (but i do know the original breeder) and some days he looks HOT and others he is just so-so. :/

    I can't speak with 100% authority since I don't own any Lemon's but from what I have been told.. "Good" lemons just keep getting better as they age.

    Maybe Robin can shed more light on this she's the Lemon Queen.
  • 08-31-2009, 08:45 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Here's a couple of my lemon Lustro throughout the 3 years I've had him.

    Couple of months old
    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...o/000_0053.jpg

    1.5 Years
    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...o/100_1658.jpg

    3 Years
    http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...o/100_2317.jpg
  • 08-31-2009, 08:47 PM
    tiexecutioner
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    thats a beauty :)
  • 08-31-2009, 08:59 PM
    rabernet
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    I've been told that Kevin McCurley prefers not to put up lemons for sale until after their 5th shed.

    Here's the progression of my lemon pastel female that I produced last year:

    Just hatched:

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4123.jpg

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4122.jpg

    After first shed:

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...telFemale4.jpg

    A month or two old (I didn't date the pictures, unfortunately)

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4520.jpg

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4520.jpg

    A few months later:

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4617.jpg

    Probably six months old here:

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4752.jpg

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4760.jpg

    About 10 months old (with horrible lighting that really didn't show off her yellow well)

    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_5449.jpg

    And for the most current pictures of her - you can click my link in my signature and go to The Nest link to the pastel pictures. She's in all the pictures in the series, except for the first picture (of her daddy) and the last picture (of her brother).

    When shopping lemons - look for the most pale faded head you can find. Also, it helps to see the sire to get an idea of how they will mature. The dam is important too, that she be a light female, and not a super duper dark girl.
  • 08-31-2009, 09:19 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
  • 08-31-2009, 10:37 PM
    Lolo76
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    Of course it's mostly personal preference, but I think a pastel should have lots of blushing, nice yellow/black contrast, and a very cluttered pattern (with "cheerios" and such). I think my boy is a gorgeous example of the morph, but of course I may be a little biased. ;) Here he is:

    FYI, he's about 7-8 months old, 3ft long and ~400g
    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF6575.jpg

    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF6592.jpg

    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF6597.jpg

    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF6600.jpg
  • 08-31-2009, 10:43 PM
    Lolo76
    Re: What Do Good quality pastels look like!
    P.S. I paid $125 for Toby at a herp show, and I don't know what line he is - Bell or Graziani, perhaps? :confuzd:
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