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  • 08-29-2009, 09:55 PM
    armbarvictim
    UTH is at 110
    Dont freak out guys. My UTH is at 110 and I dont have a damn dimmer so I just piled the aspen about 2 inches. My Ball python Diablo doesn't burrow in his hide but it worries me if he does because that would surely burn him.

    How hot should it be on the glass where the uth is max?
  • 08-29-2009, 09:56 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    Dont freak out guys. My UTH is at 110 and I dont have a damn dimmer so I just piled the aspen about 2 inches.

    Go buy a dimmer - don't be reckless with the life of your animal over a $7 rheostat.
  • 08-29-2009, 09:58 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    K, I just unplugged it, but for future reference what is the hottest it should be?
  • 08-29-2009, 09:59 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    K, I just unplugged it, but for future reference what is the hottest it should be?

    80-85 and 90 on the hot side. Check out the care sheet somewhere around here.
  • 08-29-2009, 10:02 PM
    HerpKeeperVA
    Re: UTH is at 110
    That's just plain reckless IMO. Do you have a heat lamp or something you can use for heat until you get a dimmer? Dimmers are less than $10 at Lowes or Home Depot, go buy one, stop being cheap and/or lazy!
  • 08-29-2009, 10:05 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    hey hey whoa, calm down with the verbal attacks here, I am a new owner and it is called being uninformed not reckless, That is why I came on here to get the low down, you guys dont need to jump all over me man.

    I doubt He cant get hurt if he is sitting on the aspen 2 inches above the uth heat.

    I will by a dimmer and get this taken care of. I have unplugged it and turned on the heat lamp in the meanwhile, but I was told not to place the lamp right at the hide, true?
  • 08-29-2009, 10:14 PM
    luna13
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    hey hey whoa, calm down with the verbal attacks here, I am a new owner and it is called being uninformed not reckless, That is why I came on here to get the low down, you guys dont need to jump all over me man.

    I doubt He cant get hurt if he is sitting on the aspen 2 inches above the uth heat.

    I will by a dimmer and get this taken care of. I have unplugged it and turned on the heat lamp in the meanwhile, but I was told not to place the lamp right at the hide, true?

    dont worry about it, i agree people should take it easy...just get it asap like tom and youll be fine
  • 08-29-2009, 10:16 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    right on, thanks for the rational and calm response to a problem instead of calling me cheap and irresponsible, if anything happened to my boy I would be devastated and am willing to do anything to keep him safe like one of my kids man. for real.
  • 08-29-2009, 10:19 PM
    luna13
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    right on, thanks for the rational and calm response to a problem instead of calling me cheap and irresponsible, if anything happened to my boy I would be devastated and am willing to do anything to keep him safe like one of my kids man. for real.

    i got you dont worry about it...anything else you need just send me a message and ask away
  • 08-29-2009, 10:26 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post

    I doubt He cant get hurt if he is sitting on the aspen 2 inches above the uth heat.

    i know that you know that that isn't true. There are tons of snakes that get burned by unregulated heating elements every year.

    The difference is, you are here trying to get help. Keep an eye on the temps (make sure you are measuring them with a reliable thermometer like an accuite -- something digital and calibrated).

    A dimmer is a quick fix. There is a really cheap thermostat you can get. ("..Thermostat") The zoomed reptitemp 500R. Then they go up from there. The Johnson and Ranco are nice mid-level thermostats and then there are higher end ones like Helix and Herpstat (made by spyder robotics)
  • 08-29-2009, 10:42 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    I can hurt my snake even if he is on top off the aspen?

    cause I had it on all week last week, he seems fine though I just held him today
  • 08-29-2009, 11:29 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    I can hurt my snake even if he is on top off the aspen?

    cause I had it on all week last week, he seems fine though I just held him today

    the problem is he isn't just on top of the aspen. He can and WILL burry down if he wants more warmth. They have a very hard time gauging temperature on their bellies and this is how they end up with bad burns.

    110 is much too hot to safely run, this also makes your cage temps off from "accepted" temps and can cause other problems like causing him to go off feed, become stressed or even aggressive because he just can't escape the heat. If he starts hiding in or curling around his water dish excessively he could very likely be over heating.

    I had my thermometer probe become unstuck from the area its supposed to be in and only realized when i looked in on my guys and found everyone on the cool side ontop of thier hides or around their water bowls.

    Everything was fixed and no damage was done but as the keeper it is your responsibility to make sure you give your animal the right environment because as a captive creature he can't do it for himself :)
  • 08-29-2009, 11:55 PM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    lesson learned, I just hope he does good without the uth turned on and just the heat lamp for a couple days.
  • 08-30-2009, 01:13 AM
    771subliminal
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    am willing to do anything to keep him safe like one of my kids man. for real.

    then youll be wanting to pick up one of these cuz dimmers are sketchy when it comes to keeping stable temps http://spyderrobotics.com/products/index.html
  • 08-30-2009, 06:39 AM
    armbarvictim
    Re: UTH is at 110
    uhhh no thanks, I dont have that kind of money lol.
  • 08-30-2009, 07:15 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    lesson learned, I just hope he does good without the uth turned on and just the heat lamp for a couple days.

    He should be fine, as long as your room isn't super cold... many snakes are kept with only heat lamps, and survive alright. ;) What are the temps reading now, with just the lamp?
  • 08-30-2009, 11:37 AM
    rabernet
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    uhhh no thanks, I dont have that kind of money lol.

    You should probably save for a quality thermostat though and consider it an investment for the life of your animal.

    A $75 thermostat is much more affordable than potential vet visits to treat a burn.

    You can also purchase an on/off thermostat that is in the $75 range here:
    http://www.reptilebasics.com/Thermostats-p-1-c-250.html Check out the pre-wired Johnson's and Ranco's
  • 08-30-2009, 01:13 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    You should probably save for a quality thermostat though and consider it an investment for the life of your animal.

    A $75 thermostat is much more affordable than potential vet visits to treat a burn.

    You can also purchase an on/off thermostat that is in the $75 range here:
    http://www.reptilebasics.com/Thermostats-p-1-c-250.html Check out the pre-wired Johnson's and Ranco's

    THIS times 100!

    You have to understand that a thermostat is JUST as important as the ANIMAL in your set up. Its part of the "package deal" that comes with dealing with animals that can't internally control their own body temperatures. :)
  • 12-22-2009, 02:38 PM
    Classicrocker42o
    Re: UTH is at 110
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by armbarvictim View Post
    hey hey whoa, calm down with the verbal attacks here, I am a new owner and it is called being uninformed not reckless, That is why I came on here to get the low down, you guys dont need to jump all over me man.

    (This is a little old, but I had to put in my two cents.)

    They can get a little feisty on here, but you're not in the right either.

    If you don't want people "jumping" on you then next time if you do get another snake do your research before you buy it!

    and at least have the proper setup for the little fella...

    Being uninformed, unprepared, and not having a snake isn't reckless.

    But when you've already have the snake... It's very much reckless.
  • 12-22-2009, 04:58 PM
    withonor
    Re: UTH is at 110
    The serial bumper strikes again... News at 11.
  • 12-22-2009, 06:28 PM
    spitfireashlea
    Re: UTH is at 110
    *Cracks knuckles*

    Ok..i'm hoping by now that you have noticed most of the people on this particular forum are professional/successful breeders/snake keepers that have the science of keeping exotic reptiles down to a pat.

    Now, with that said, here is where I TOTALLY disagree.

    Yes these are extremely sensitive animals that require care not readily understandable by most people who have only owned cats (not assuming you have, but their care requirements are not always known.)

    I am by no means a "breeder" and have not been keeping reptiles for an overly large part of time. But from my experience and the experience I have gained from other reputable reptile keepers in my family, the wisdom you CAN gain on this forum, is not always the way things CAN go.

    In your situation, I think you should keep a better eye on your snakes temperatures. It's vital to them. Given that you did not know, and the snake is fine, then no harm no fowel.

    The temperatures/humidity listed as a "LAW" here, I feel are not always necessary. From my experience, BP's do just fine with lower humidity levels, successfully thriving on 20% humidity. Thought I do agree with raising humidity and having proper levels of temperature, they are not ALWAYS required to be at the specified temps.

    With all that said, you are here now. There is a plethora of information available to you and your new pet. Spend sometime looking at all the information here, but by all means, see what fits you and your snake best.

    Wish you the best of luck. Post some pictures of the "abused" snake you have there. I'm sure its gorgeous ;)
  • 12-22-2009, 08:13 PM
    withonor
    Re: UTH is at 110
    BREAKING NEWS! Sorry to interrupt your regularly schedule program, but this just in. Someone was caught unaware of the serial bumper's actions just fell victim. The count continues to grow.
  • 12-22-2009, 08:21 PM
    spitfireashlea
    Re: UTH is at 110
    ^ :rofl::8:
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