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  • 08-28-2009, 12:56 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Do You Believe?
    Do you guys believe in hunting? I do and don't. Here in Canada there is a rule. You eat what you kill. I think thats a fair rule. I believe in it because the deer, moose, and bear population is over the top! Here in Ontario we have over 350,000 black bear! Yes thats just black bear!

    Daniel
  • 08-28-2009, 01:19 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I believe in hunting but I'm not a trophy hunter. We eat what we kill...
  • 08-28-2009, 01:41 PM
    MattU
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Yeah I do, and I definitely believe in eating what you kill. Which is no problem for me, I love deer/squirrel/dove meat. I don't deer hunt mch though, way too cold for me
  • 08-28-2009, 01:43 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    I believe in hunting but I'm not a trophy hunter. We eat what we kill...

    Thats what I like doing,

    Daniel
  • 08-28-2009, 01:44 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Yeah I do, and I definitely believe in eating what you kill. Which is no problem for me, I love deer/squirrel/dove meat. I don't deer hunt mch though, way too cold for me

    I don't like squirrel it taste weird in a way,

    Daniel
  • 08-28-2009, 01:49 PM
    scutechute
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I "don't believe" in hunting for myself. I'm okay with other people doing it if that's what they want to do.

    I have difficulty knowing that a wild animal has to struggle EVERYDAY just to live. I realize it's part of nature, but my point is that wild animals struggle day in and day out for every aspect of their existance - What gives me the right to sneak up on them and shoot them for fun?

    I have more respect for people who eat what they kill, but personally - hunting is just not for me.
  • 08-28-2009, 01:53 PM
    nixer
    Re: Do You Believe?
    i get my limits every year :salute:
  • 08-28-2009, 01:53 PM
    luna13
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    I believe in hunting but I'm not a trophy hunter. We eat what we kill...

    x2
  • 08-28-2009, 02:13 PM
    MattU
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simpson Balls View Post
    I don't like squirrel it taste weird in a way,

    Daniel

    I like'em, even though they're tree-rats :D
  • 08-28-2009, 02:35 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Never been a big hunter.. But I do fish and I rarely if ever keep anything.. I catch and release.
  • 08-28-2009, 02:44 PM
    Aleria
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Yeah, have to agree with the eat what you kill opinion, especially in places where there isn't a very large population of whatever it is that someone may be hunting. So hunting just to have something to stuff or hang on the wall is a little pointless when you're being a possible detriment to a small population.

    I grew up with both my parents deer hunting and I did so myself for 4 years, everything we shot was food. Heh, at one point my dad actually picked up a massive buck that has been hit on the side of the road just minutes earlier and brought that home, some of the best venison I've had, roadkill or not.
  • 08-28-2009, 03:20 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Do You Believe?
    For those who think hunting is boring or cruel should try facing off with a charging wild boar. Hunting wild boar without the benefit of dogs should be considered an extreme sport. If they detect you first they will charge without warning. All you hear is some leaves rustle, maybe a grunt or two and then they are on you. The reaction is usually :O Alot of times you don't have time to get your gun up. The best you can hope for is to jump or climb out of the way and hope they don't turn around. Then dig in to your backpack and get the clean pants out...
  • 08-28-2009, 03:48 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Hunting isn't really my thing although I do understand the need for it. I have a lot more respect for people that hunt with a bow and arrow than those that use guns.
  • 08-28-2009, 04:01 PM
    Derrick13
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Yep, I believe in hunting but only to eat what you kill.

    Bow hunting = the most boring experince ever ( for me atleast). you just sit in a tree and wait all day...man what a sport , I think the only other sport tat requires that much endurance is bowling lol
  • 08-28-2009, 04:16 PM
    dc4teg
    Re: Do You Believe?
    well when it comes to deer, its about fat does, not about the one with the biggest antlers I can shoot, big bucks dont taste as good :(
  • 08-28-2009, 04:20 PM
    Aleria
    Re: Do You Believe?
    True, the fatty does do have a lot less gamey taste compared to the bucks.
    And for me, I'd probably still hunt today if I still lived in Michigan where the deer are big and taste better than these ones down south, and also if I would have ever hunted with a gun instead of a bow, because yes, bow hunting is booooring when you have to be so quiet for so many hours and can't move.
    Although people that have blinds rather than use a tree climber like I did can usually get away with moving around a bit so you aren't stuck sitting there like a statue.
  • 08-28-2009, 04:34 PM
    dapike1979
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    I believe in hunting but I'm not a trophy hunter. We eat what we kill...

    Bear not the best wild meat to eat maybe in sausage with deer.... My Fav is Cariboo I had some when I worked up in the Arctic it trumps moose by a long shot.. & for Bear they are a pest.. I live in Northern Ontario I see and get some in my garbage all the time.. They should open hunting season 2 times in one year to get the population down.. But who am I to say that I live in there terretory...:D
  • 08-28-2009, 09:23 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scutechute View Post
    I "don't believe" in hunting for myself. I'm okay with other people doing it if that's what they want to do.

    I have difficulty knowing that a wild animal has to struggle EVERYDAY just to live. I realize it's part of nature, but my point is that wild animals struggle day in and day out for every aspect of their existance - What gives me the right to sneak up on them and shoot them for fun?

    I have more respect for people who eat what they kill, but personally - hunting is just not for me.

    Sorry, but this just really made me laugh. Not to sound preachy as I am a vegetarian but don't you realize that the meat you put on your plate has to struggle every day to survive? Unless you live on a nice open, sun-filled, happy go lucky farm or get your meat from such a place, the meat on your plate suffers a LOT more than some deer in the woods. Just saying...

    Personally I think hunting has a purpose, as long as you eat everything you kill. I can't stand trophy hunters. Even if you do eat what you kill, I have a real problem putting a deer's head on your wall. For me, it is kind of disrespectful to the dead.

    One day I'm probably going to suck it up and hunt/fish for my ferrets, cats, and dog since I will eventually put everyone on a raw/whole prey diet (ferrets are already on a raw diet) so variety is of great importance. I plan on breeding my own mice, rats, rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters, gerbils, and chickens for my carnivorous pets, but wild game might be good for them. Not sure I could kill a wild animal, but we shall see. I already fish for them sometimes.
  • 08-28-2009, 09:35 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    I like'em, even though they're tree-rats :D

    Lol,

    Daniel
  • 08-28-2009, 09:35 PM
    bad-one
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I enjoy hunting (partially for the hunting, and partially for just being out there with my dad hiking in the woods)and I hunt deer. Here in california we can only shoot bucks with at least forked antlers so its hard to get anything. I see nothing wrong with hunting as long as you strive to make clean shots and eat what you kill.
  • 08-30-2009, 04:16 AM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: Do You Believe?
    When we were kids my dad would head into the bush with us for 3 - 4 months at a time. If you wanted to eat, you had to fish or hunt.

    Do not do it as an adult, I just do not see the point to it personally, but half my siblings still hunt and are bringing their kids up the same way.

    In hunting families it is a rite of passage, and hopefully they are being taught respect for the animals and how to hunt responsibly.

    As long as people are responsible, do it safely, and stick within the laws, it does not bother me.

    Bruce
  • 08-30-2009, 11:13 AM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead View Post
    When we were kids my dad would head into the bush with us for 3 - 4 months at a time. If you wanted to eat, you had to fish or hunt.

    Do not do it as an adult, I just do not see the point to it personally, but half my siblings still hunt and are bringing their kids up the same way.

    In hunting families it is a rite of passage, and hopefully they are being taught respect for the animals and how to hunt responsibly.

    As long as people are responsible, do it safely, and stick within the laws, it does not bother me.

    Bruce

    Thats great your brothers/sisters are teaching there kids how to hunt!

    Daniel
  • 08-30-2009, 12:17 PM
    icygirl
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I've always wanted to try hunting. I'm a little afraid of guns but I want to get over this. We go fishing all the time, though, and if we get a good sized trout or bass we'll take it home and fry it up. Seriously, nothing is better than a freshly caught trout fried up in butter... mmmmmm :)
  • 08-30-2009, 04:55 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I believe in hunting responsibly. I don't mind trophys on the wall, it's not my thing, but hey, as long as it was hunted responsibly and what could be used was used, I don't care what bits and pieces people want to keep.

    Hunt or fish, all good to eat. I don't particularly feel bad about killing a deer as opposed to a goat or a cow. They are all critters. They were all alive at some point, minding their own business, and then someone killed them. If I kill it myself at least I know how it died, and what happened to it after it was dead.

    One thing I haven't ever quite grasped is the people that say "I eat meat, but I could never kill something to eat it." Not that I'm bashing them, or saying they are wrong, I just don't quite grasp the concept. I truely believe you should remember where that meat came from and respect that it once was alive and breathing, just like you. I can sort of snatch at the outsides of the idea.. I just can't quite get there.
  • 08-30-2009, 07:17 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I love to hunt and fish :gj:.If we did not help control the populations then they would starve to death and die from starvation of course this would be worse.
  • 08-30-2009, 07:57 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I go shooting all the time and am an avid marksman but have never had the chance to go hunting. I would really like to go but don't know anyone to go with. And as for Wolfys comment I dont have a problem with killing the animal but the cleaning of the animal would be a bit difficult for me, I think. lol.
  • 08-30-2009, 08:05 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    I love to hunt and fish :gj:.If we did not help control the populations then they would starve to death and die from starvation of course this would be worse.

    Yea your right and next thing you know they will have babies not for the sake of having babies but to eat them. EWW!

    Daniel
  • 08-30-2009, 08:12 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I Love hunting and i give deer the rights to fill my freezer. Their here for us to Enjoy and watch. I been hunting for 11 years now and will never miss a chance to be in the woods In the peace n quiet of nature. IT relaxes me soooo much.
  • 08-30-2009, 08:16 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sg1trogdor View Post
    I go shooting all the time and am an avid marksman but have never had the chance to go hunting.

    I had a marksman shot, but never bagged anything bigger than a spruce grouse or rabbit. Drove my dad nuts, and was the reason at 15 I got to start staying home and going to concerts while my brother was out in the bush smelling like a feral child. :rofl:

    Hopefully you can find a like minded person to go hunting with, if it is something you want to do. :)

    Bruce
  • 08-30-2009, 08:36 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simpson Balls View Post
    Yea your right and next thing you know they will have babies not for the sake of having babies but to eat them. EWW!

    Daniel

    Normaly if animals are underfed they dont produce babies that season ;).One other thing is diseases set in on the sickly animals and more animals die then those that are actually killed by hunters.
  • 08-30-2009, 08:40 PM
    Aleria
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Or, like I experienced while living in Michgan, the overpopulation leads to the animals wandering into more populated areas. And with deer that usually means far more of them walking and running around in the roads and getting hit by cars.
  • 08-30-2009, 08:46 PM
    BallPythons9
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I hunt and fish and I love it. However I believe you should eat what you shoot and always obey all hunting or fishing laws.
  • 08-31-2009, 09:56 AM
    cbentley
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I Hunt, Trap, and fish. I Love the outdoors.
  • 08-31-2009, 08:00 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Do You Believe?
    But how can someone like me (vegetarian/occasionally vegan) get into hunting? I have no problem fishing and would do it more often to get food for my animals (cats, dog, and ferrets) but I never have time. I would attempt hunting to supply my animals' diets but I wouldn't know where to start and I'm not sure I could shoot a living animal. It is a lot different than throwing a mouse into a tub.
  • 08-31-2009, 08:08 PM
    Aleria
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    But how can someone like me (vegetarian/occasionally vegan) get into hunting? I have no problem fishing and would do it more often to get food for my animals (cats, dog, and ferrets) but I never have time. I would attempt hunting to supply my animals' diets but I wouldn't know where to start and I'm not sure I could shoot a living animal. It is a lot different than throwing a mouse into a tub.

    I think in your case trapping would probably be a better option. Being that you would not be doing it for the joy of the sport, have a limited schedule, and would like to use whatever you get as a food source for your animals, it would be hard to have to spend hours out hunting and possibly come home empty handed. And since you have to hunt only when certain things are in season, that would also mean long periods of not being able to hunt specific things.
    With trapping I'd think it'd be far less time consuming, and would not be too far off from what you're already doing since I believe once you trap the animals it's just a matter of killing or maiming them and either using them whole or cooking them up as a food source. But it doesn't require hours of sitting and waiting for the possible change to shoot something, with the possibility of missing your shot.
    There are probably a lot of good sites out there with information on trapping. I've never done it myself but knew quite a few people that did it year round for different animals as nearly their main food source.
  • 08-31-2009, 08:13 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    But how can someone like me (vegetarian/occasionally vegan) get into hunting? I have no problem fishing and would do it more often to get food for my animals (cats, dog, and ferrets) but I never have time. I would attempt hunting to supply my animals' diets but I wouldn't know where to start and I'm not sure I could shoot a living animal. It is a lot different than throwing a mouse into a tub.

    I'm into hunting, and I'm a vegetarian.
    The animals in the wild are wild, free, and about as natural as could be. There's no human made suffering, and hunting is one of the most natural things that we could do to help population problems as well as create our own food properly. I haven't had any hunting chance, but when I hunt I will eat the meat that I kill or my family kills. I'm not a vegetarian for kicks, it's a personal value that doesn't apply to hunted animals.
    Even though most of the population issues are our own fault. We were the ones that wiped out the carnivores in the first place.
  • 09-09-2009, 06:55 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I went fishing this week and caught a 1/2lb catfish. :D Not that big, but still a darn fish! :D

    While I sat waiting for the line to bounce I thought about the idea of me hunting. I think right now I'm just going to focus on breeding my own feeder animals. If I ever live on my own farm and have some land I can hunt on, I might, but right now I'm not ready to take that step of actively going out with a gun/bow and hunting down animals. My grandfather hunts deer. I might ask him to take me out this year.
  • 09-09-2009, 06:58 PM
    nixer
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I went fishing this week and caught a 1/2lb catfish. :D Not that big, but still a darn fish! :D

    While I sat waiting for the line to bounce I thought about the idea of me hunting. I think right now I'm just going to focus on breeding my own feeder animals. If I ever live on my own farm and have some land I can hunt on, I might, but right now I'm not ready to take that step of actively going out with a gun/bow and hunting down animals. My grandfather hunts deer. I might ask him to take me out this year.

    you should go out with him hunting. thats good times
  • 09-09-2009, 07:03 PM
    Neal
    Re: Do You Believe?
    I believe in hunting as long as it's going to be eaten, otherwise no.
  • 09-09-2009, 07:53 PM
    Simpson Balls
    Re: Do You Believe?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    I believe in hunting as long as it's going to be eaten, otherwise no.

    Thats with me too!:D

    Daniel
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